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Q86ARR
 


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32mm for the hub nut.

One small tip: use a copper hammer on the ball joint until it moves then put a socket in the ball joint to tap it out.
  
Post #6132552nd Mar 2010 7:52 pm
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thanks for this post this will help me loads as ive already tried and gave up once.
but now i can do it. Razz
  
Post #62664524th Mar 2010 2:36 pm
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Just done one of these this arvo, got the other in the morning.

I phoned the main stealer to order the ball joint. Would you believe the parts guy admitted that LR had a huge quality issue with all the ball joints used on the earlier models (yeah no sheet Sherlock) that were made in eastern europe and that they changed them for a more robust and beefed up model (made in the UK) and customers replacing them are advised to do so in pairs with the new type (RBK500280). So if LR knew they had quality issues and the original BJoints weren't up to the job how come no recall; well we know why?

So I bought a pair for £57inc.

Thanks for the guide, makes the job a lot easier. It wasn't too bad and took 1.5 hours with some care and the tidy up, tomorrow's should be half the time.
  
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Regarding the removal of the driveshaft from the hub:
it seems that this is impossible on my car.. I've just spent 2 days trying to remove my left front driveshaft with no success at all.
I've tried hitting it with a hammer, hitting it with a sledgehammer, prying it out with all the tools in my garage.
I tried my biggest "puller/pusher" and destroyed it in the process. I went out and bought a special removal tool and also destroyed this. I've heated it with a torch and then used an even bigger sledgehammer.
It hasn't budged a millimeter..

Just to be sure: there are no hidden bolts that secures the shaft in any way??
  
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Nope, just the 32mm nut on the end...
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Brede, have you removed the lower ball joint from the bottom of the stub? If you pop the ball joint out of the bottom of the stub, it gives chance to move the splines out of the hub easier.

If you have you need to soak the splines in a good penertrating fluid delivered by an aerosol.

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Thanks Lee. Have tried that and everything else now, the driveshaft is totally seized in the hub.
My golf-training came in handy when I decided to swing the sledgehammer in anger. On the plus side I did not break anything, on the other hand the shaft did not budge.
Looks like I'm gonna have to give this up.. Rolling Eyes
  
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Just so people know, the driveshaft nut torque has now changed to 230Nm to help prolong the life of wheel bearings.
  
Post #68686927th Aug 2010 9:46 pm
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Not for everybody...

I first tried to do this as described, but the balljoints wouldnt budge, eaven hammering all my full 100kg at the blow. Stuck like they were welded on. Needed a press. Crying or Very sad

My local stealer struggled as well. They had to remove the bridge to get it in the press. However, they hat to use heat to loosen the bolts- so I had to buy new bushes for the bridge. At the stealers they thought this would fix the problem, and I would not have to pay for this extra labour. Got a call at the end of the day I should collect...the car would not be finished. It was ready to collect at the end of next day. Pale in the face, the stealerman said they had miscalculated the time. Each bridge alone was supposedly estimated a 4.7hr job to change the bushings on...(!!!)

Here in Norway, the price for their job for the next D3, with balljoints, bushes and 4 wheel alignment (just for labour) would be approx 1700GBP!!! But he offered me a price of 700...One man had worked two full days with my big blue, swearing. Whistle

I took the offer and drove off, happy Mr. Green Enjoing my smooth, bumpfree ride.....
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Driveshaft nut - 350Nm


Mikey, This setting is now updated and should be 275Nm Thumbs Up
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Brede wrote:
Regarding the removal of the driveshaft from the hub:
it seems that this is impossible on my car.. I've just spent 2 days trying to remove my left front driveshaft with no success at all.


Brede, As mentioned, the shaft is only secured by the hub nut, I assume you are pulling the free end of the yoke (and hub) forward slightly when you hit it - if you don't, the drive shaft will be fully home in the diff, and the impact from hitting will transfer through to the diff gears etc - not good Shocked

I pre soaked the shaft with release fluid, then I used a 14lb lump hammer, and a brave assistant to hold the hub forward, but it came out after 2 or 3 good strikes Thumbs Up

see my write up here http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic54694.html?highlight=

You'll notice in the first picture, how corroded the splined shaft was Confused

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Re: New New Lower ball joint part number

ramblinrookie wrote:
Hi,

Apparently there is a new lower ball joint part number (referenced by TLO in July this) - RBK500280.

As an aside how good are OEM units - does anyone have experience of the Lemforder units?

Thanks


Be careful installing after market Ball joints. I had the misfortune of a repair agent installing Non genuine lowers ball joints (twice) and they were too big in the OD (outer diameter). Hence when pressed or hit in place, this caused the hole to be flared (expanded) so that the OEM ball joint replacement (new flanged one, RBK500280) simply could be slipped in and out by hand.
Both lower control arms had to be replaced. Not a cheap exercise (if you include the labour)

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Re the LR tool used to fit the new ball joint in place are these easy to get hold of or can I improvise using something similar to what was used to knock the old joint out?

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What is the current setting of the hub nut 275 or 230 NM?
  
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Just been having a go at this, the new ball joints (genuine LR) are loose in the wishbone! New wishbones then I guess...Doh. Mad
  
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