Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7659
Moo wrote:
Maybe they are right. Maybe it's about the journey not the driving. Many kids today don't seem to want to learn to drive. My niece and nephew don't. They live in London and don't see the point.
But if thats the plan from JaGuAr then what's to stop Miele, Siemens, Samsung and Beko etc building 'cars'? After all they are experts in electric motor white goods.......
I’ve just ordered my next ‘white good’ …… and the colour I’ve chosen is ….. wait for it …… wait for it …… white. An ex-Disco3 / FFRR / I-Pace owner ......
..... now pootling around in a Porker EV.
25th Nov 2024 6:52 pm
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 704
Much as I have a really low opinion of Musk (half way to Australia class of low) he makes the succinct point.
You glean absolutely no idea of what Jaguar does. It could be clothes dyes, fancy hairstyles or even the sofa they sit on.
Build industry leading cars......never! A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
25th Nov 2024 7:13 pm
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 415
In this instance, I'm not sure that Musk does make a good point. If you talk about Jaguar, nearly everyone knows you are talking about cars - even if you happen to own a Jaguar tennis racket, you are still more likely to think "car" first when you hear the name. This means that Jaguar can be given a little bit of slack in terms of whether they actually show any car imagery. It wouldn't work for Honda, where you could be talking about cars, motorbikes, outboard engines or sewing machines.
Perhaps I should also break it to Musk that the only Tesla branded products I've ever bought have been thermostats for my hot-water tank!Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
25th Nov 2024 9:23 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
Paul J. wrote:
Moo wrote:
Maybe they are right. Maybe it's about the journey not the driving. Many kids today don't seem to want to learn to drive. My niece and nephew don't. They live in London and don't see the point.
But if thats the plan from JaGuAr then what's to stop Miele, Siemens, Samsung and Beko etc building 'cars'? After all they are experts in electric motor white goods.......
I’ve just ordered my next ‘white good’ …… and the colour I’ve chosen is ….. wait for it …… wait for it …… white.
Don't you drive a Dyson or is it a Shark?................... D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
25th Nov 2024 9:48 pm
Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7659
Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Harbor Springs
Posts: 79
RRSTDV8 wrote:
As I don't buy new, I'll be happily buying "real" LRs for a while yet. Buy second hand and then do 150k miles in it seems to be a handy approach.
Now if we can get the depreciations gods to frown upon the Defender like other rovers, life will be good.
Honeslty though, I can see a D5 in the future, as they are reportedly as good off the road as on, and they are awfully good on the road. No wonder they have them on hand as loaners!
26th Nov 2024 12:13 am
Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7659
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An ex-Disco3 / FFRR / I-Pace owner ......
..... now pootling around in a Porker EV.
26th Nov 2024 6:56 am
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 415
Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
26th Nov 2024 8:05 am
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8147
Jaguar tag line; ‘Copy nothing’
Releases preview pic on upcoming show car with no rear screen, Groundbraking innovation? Erm, just like latest Polestar then……..
26th Nov 2024 12:26 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13605
Gnomad wrote:
RRSTDV8 wrote:
As I don't buy new, I'll be happily buying "real" LRs for a while yet. Buy second hand and then do 150k miles in it seems to be a handy approach.
Now if we can get the depreciations gods to frown upon the Defender like other rovers, life will be good.
Honeslty though, I can see a D5 in the future, as they are reportedly as good off the road as on, and they are awfully good on the road. No wonder they have them on hand as loaners!
I won't be getting a D5 in the future. When I've had them as loaners they just do nothing for me.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
26th Nov 2024 1:43 pm
Gnomad
Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Harbor Springs
Posts: 79
We hadn't expected to like it as much as we did. better than the Defender!
27th Nov 2024 2:15 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
The Defender and D5 share the same underpinnings. It's just the body and cabin that differs. Like the Defender, it's impressive off road but it's like driving a jacked up estate car / station wagon.
I've sold my Defender and did look at the D5 but its just not me/us so I pick up a 2015 D4 today D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
27th Nov 2024 8:55 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14177
Hi moo
Massive congrats on the new D4 , indeed they stand out from the rest in being such practical vehicles
Will be interesting to see what the new discovery 6 will be like
Safe and happy travels mate
27th Nov 2024 9:03 am
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8147
D4 is the sweet spot for me too in terms of Disco’s. I’m looking forward to getting my D350 D5 January’ish but see it as a ‘Range Rover’ really in all but name. They are more roly-poly than the Defender off same platform but I know the engine is a peach having had it in RRS’s previously
27th Nov 2024 9:17 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13605
Moo wrote:
I've sold my Defender and did look at the D5 but its just not me/us so I pick up a 2015 D4 today
I'm on my second RRS but I do sometimes think about getting a late D4 to replace the RRS when it goes - if a decent D4 can be found at the time, of course.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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