Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2929
That looks more like the batmobile to me!
Amyhow, back on Jaaags: the following short appeared on my recommended views for Youtube earlier this evening - very different times:
Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
23rd Nov 2024 12:21 am
Gnomad
Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Harbor Springs
Posts: 79
So Jagwont has set upon a course of essentially starting a new brand mostly disconnected from its legacy in a market that has been brutal to EV startups.
They may be right about the market forgetting about Jag after 2 years but I don't think they are counting on being forgotten about may be the same as starting over and they will end up joining the ranks of Fisker, Lucid, Rivian, Lordstown, etc. The problem with this strategy is that now all those companies still left will have a 2 years head start on them.
Yaeh, everybody is talking about Jag right now. Everyone talked about the Yugo and the Aztek but that didn't translate into any particular success. Unfortunately I think the cat may have to be put down.
23rd Nov 2024 12:27 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14176
Couldn’t stop laughing after he called it a growler
Can’t wait for Clarkson to give a review of the advert
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23rd Nov 2024 4:10 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14176
A real advert and think there wasn’t any speed limits on the motorway back then
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23rd Nov 2024 4:13 am
Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7659
2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms
24th Nov 2024 12:47 pm
Rescue01
Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 2528
Apparently their new products are bright clothing for pedestrians Its not the height of the fall but the sudden stop at the bottom that hurts!!
24th Nov 2024 1:42 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6769
Jag boss seems to not have learned that the customer is always right. Also fighting someone on social media never ends well.
24th Nov 2024 2:31 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73130
They’ve nothing better to do, like make or sell cars.
24th Nov 2024 3:15 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2929
Harry's Garage has just done an overview of the TWR resto-mod of the XJS V12. Interesting viewing:
Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
25th Nov 2024 1:11 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73130
Seen a few self driving Jag-wars tootling around LA today. Bit spooking seeing a car with no-one in the front at all. Maybe JLR (or whatever they are calling themselves) are planning to make big savings by not fitting pedals & steering wheels, a la Musk’s Cyder Taxi thingie.
25th Nov 2024 2:24 am
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 415
A self-driving Jag would certainly be a break from tradition, where Jaguars have often been seen as a "driver's car" as much as a comfortable box to be driven in.
I guess the real question is whether the days of the "car enthusiast" are indeed over and it is now all about image and styling, as Jaguar seem to think. Sadly, I fear they might just be right. Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
25th Nov 2024 6:36 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
Maybe they are right. Maybe it's about the journey not the driving. Many kids today don't seem to want to learn to drive. My niece and nephew don't. They live in London and don't see the point.
But if thats the plan from JaGuAr then what's to stop Miele, Siemens, Samsung and Beko etc building 'cars'? After all they are experts in electric motor white goods....... D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
25th Nov 2024 7:19 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73130
And another cost saving - available in any colour as long as it’s white-goods white.
PS And you lot just wait, this could be just the beginning. It could also be rolled out in the other part of jaGUar lAND rOvEr. After all it will have been deemed a success before it even went public.
25th Nov 2024 4:03 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13605
As I don't buy new, I'll be happily buying "real" LRs for a while yet. Buy second hand and then do 150k miles in it seems to be a handy approach. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
