nhollandsmith
Member Since: 26 Nov 2011
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Recently changed the front tyres for new Pirellis, and put those on the rear as they were the oldest.
The car was up on a ramp after fitting the tyres the car would not steer straight and it is very scary, like driving on ice.
Took the car to check the tracking and underneath and there is nothing obvious.
I checked on my fault code reader and nothing showing with the suspension sensors which I did have a few months ago.
What could be causing the car not to drive straight? I am constantly having to correct from left to right and right to left.
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31st Jan 2023 3:47 pm |
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Flatlander
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31st Jan 2023 4:18 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
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Are the new tyres rotational?
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31st Jan 2023 4:45 pm |
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Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
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Probably needs a 4wd alignment. Changing the tyres has probably knocked the alignment when the wheels themselves were removed and by the sounds of it the camber has been affected so you are no longer in contact with as much of the ground at the front.
Happened to me and a Hunter 4wd alignment sorted it.
This may show you what could have happened to your front wheels when they were removed to have the tyres changed/balanced.
https://www.bridgestonetire.com/learn/main...lignment/#
Hope you get it sorted. Jim
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31st Jan 2023 4:54 pm |
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disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
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Surely just taking the wheel off wouldn't have thrown the alignment out?
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31st Jan 2023 5:43 pm |
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nhollandsmith
Member Since: 26 Nov 2011
Location: Gdansk
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I have always put on Pirelli Scorpion Zero's never had a problem as this before, I am was checking them to see if they were rotational or not. Surely the tyre fitter would have realised if they were?
I will double check again.
The tracking does feel like it is all over the place and with four new tyres on it is really awful but have put the older tyres back on the rear making it somehow possible to drive but only at max 50 mph.
Could the air suspension struts be causing a problem? Are there any sensors there?
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31st Jan 2023 5:51 pm |
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Oxford-boy
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Location: Oxford
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disco chris wrote:Surely just taking the wheel off wouldn't have thrown the alignment out?
Done badly knocking the wheel off camber can be done..
Poor technique and both could be knocked out.
Bad camber feels like you are all over the place, especially if both are. Jim
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31st Jan 2023 5:53 pm |
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nhollandsmith
Member Since: 26 Nov 2011
Location: Gdansk
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Thanks, that is what I was concluding yesterday with the tracking as I drove late at night with no cars on the road testing what happens correcting the steering.
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31st Jan 2023 6:53 pm |
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Oxford-boy
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It would be my first check and action before anything else... (after tyre pressures..). Jim
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31st Jan 2023 7:02 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
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Hope you get it sorted. It does sound as if it needs a proper alignment by someone who knows what they are doing.
When replacing just two tyres, always fit the new ones on the rear. That applies if your vehicle is 4WD, RWD or FWD. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
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31st Jan 2023 7:21 pm |
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Flatlander
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31st Jan 2023 8:13 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
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^Me neither, I've never had it happen with a wheel change, but the description suggests misalignment.
I've had wheels not balanced properly a couple of times, but the symptoms for that are different from those described. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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31st Jan 2023 8:18 pm |
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eightfoot
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Re: Not steering straight after changing front tyres |
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nhollandsmith wrote:Recently changed the front tyres for new Pirellis, and put those on the rear as they were the oldest.
The car was up on a ramp after fitting the tyres the car would not steer straight and it is very scary, like driving on ice.
Took the car to check the tracking and underneath and there is nothing obvious.
I checked on my fault code reader and nothing showing with the suspension sensors which I did have a few months ago.
What could be causing the car not to drive straight? I am constantly having to correct from left to right and right to left.
you did check that the new tyres were the same size as the ones you took off ??
also if it was up on a ramp where did they support the car too remove the wheels please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
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31st Jan 2023 10:47 pm |
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nhollandsmith
Member Since: 26 Nov 2011
Location: Gdansk
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Decided to take to the local LR main dealer in Gdansk for a full health check.
Now a long and expensive list for a 199,500 mile 2005 Disco 3. It has been a great car for 11 years but now the costs to keep it going are mounting up. I have a quote for all parts from LR Gdansk for £6500.00.
Started leaking from the engine which is the first time since I have had the car.
We love the car and as there is no sale value in it anymore I guess it's best to replace the parts but not at Polish prices.
Turns out with the old tyres on it was not possible to really detect any problems with the suspension.
With the new tyres Pirelli Scorpion Zero 255/55/19 on it exposed the bushes in the rear upper and lower arms hence I put the old tyres back on the rear as it was fish tailing like crazy with the new tyres.
Problem here is getting parts and with most parts outlets in UK are not posting out here even LR Gdansk has to wait weeks as they too have to order from the UK.
I am having to change the rear upper and lower arms and control arms and also the front at least then it will go straight.
200K service to do plus new air reservoir as rusting, also probably a good idea to change the air struts as they have never been replaced since I have had it.
Thanks for all your help!!
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1st Feb 2023 6:21 pm |
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