RAW
Member Since: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Devon
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I was looking at the new defender to replace my D4 Commercial but the back door is no good as it only opens to 90 degrees and can. Not be folded back to 180, when lifting heavy motors into the rear its a 2 man lift and the door prevents you getting close enough to load so the D5 Commercial with the V6 will be my next vehicle just waiting to see the MY21 spec as there are some face lift zebras out testing, My D4 has just hit 96000 so can get 1 more years of extended warranty to allow me some time to see what changes for MY21. MY18 RRS Autobiography Fuji White
MY15 D4 silver Commercial
MY11 D4 Fuji White Landmark (Gone)
MY11 D4 Silver Commercial(Gone)
Isuzu Utah D Max(Gone)
John Deere Gator HPX
Nifty Lift HR12
Kubota KX41-2
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Talking of value for money, my son-in-law just took delivery of a top of the range brand new Kia Sorrento GT-Line S, yesterday for £32,000 which included a removable towbar and electrics. Looking at all the standard equipment and considering it has a 7 year warranty makes you wonder if its worth paying the sort of prices JLR are asking for their cars nowadays ?
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| 6th Feb 2020 12:04 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
 
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Quick update:
The new Sd6 is SUPERB. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 6th Feb 2020 1:57 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
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Is that the diesel V6 that's been in the RRS for a few years? Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 6th Feb 2020 2:02 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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Not sure, I’ve never paid a great deal of interest in the RRS (no split tailgate) other than two friends who have SVR’s.
It’s the 306bhp 700nm twin turbo V6 diesel. Figures are from memory, so happy to be corrected. I think it’s new(ish) to the D5.
A vast improvement over the TDV6, which I didn’t like. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 6th Feb 2020 3:04 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
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DG wrote:RRSTDV8 wrote:Has LR ever made an uglier vehicle? Or a less popular one? 
Yeah, the Duffender .....very poor sales too  
Only another year left for my D5 ....then I can move onto the next ...hopefully a hybrid 8)
Snap MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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| 6th Feb 2020 7:00 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
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RRSTDV8 wrote:Is that the diesel V6 that's been in the RRS for a few years?
It’s the engine that should’ve been in it from launch but no LR removed a turbo and gave us oil dilution for an increased price. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 6th Feb 2020 7:53 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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DG wrote:...because they can't get over it. 
Why is having to “get over it” even an option, let alone a necessity?
Most members here have had a very close look at them and driven at least one of them; you’re right, in so far as the much higher prices have made them unaffordable for many and while a handful have bought one, a larger number have hung on to what they’ve got or changed to something else, many having been lost to LR altogether. It’s a free market and there’s no need to examine, dislike and yet still buy 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 7th Feb 2020 7:39 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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LT wrote:Quick update:
The new Sd6 is SUPERB.
Agreed. The TDV6 was a weird step backwards, but the Sd6 is at least two steps forward. I’d only hope that the engine’s bottom end has been suitably upgraded to cope with the extra power. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 7th Feb 2020 7:44 am |
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kirkyworld
Member Since: 01 Mar 2016
Location: Northampton
Posts: 566
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Truly the ugliest Land Rover built yet by a country mile. I would have happily swapped mine last year when it was 3 years old if the 5 was different. I'm in limbo now not knowing what to change for. The advantage of buying rather than renting cars I guess means it costs me nothing whilst I decide.
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| 7th Feb 2020 8:16 am |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
Posts: 2531
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I think this is whats annoyed me most of all its the perfect fit for me and its been ruined by a poor rear end design . I had a good look at one recently and internally i really like it, externally the fronts right but it goes to rat  the further back you go.
Cost isnt my issue as im probably going to go FFRR next but i really want to buy another disco just not one that is embarrassing visually IMO. MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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| 7th Feb 2020 9:26 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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It’s very frustrating indeed There’s a lot good about it, especially now it has the Sd6 engine, although as RM says I wonder how robust it is. It’s just a few bits of poor design, that aren’t even necessary, that ruin the complete package.  2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 7th Feb 2020 9:34 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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kirkyworld wrote:Truly the ugliest Land Rover built yet by a country mile. I would have happily swapped mine last year when it was 3 years old if the 5 was different. I'm in limbo now not knowing what to change for. The advantage of buying rather than renting cars I guess means it costs me nothing whilst I decide.
Unless your D4 is appreciating in value, you’re losing money every day.
I was in limbo for ages as well. Making a list of what I wanted from a replacement and then prioritising it lead me to a used FFRR, but even that had to be a specific year (MY17), engine and spec.
and of course it’s not as practical and versatile as the D4. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 7th Feb 2020 9:39 am |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
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LT wrote:It’s very frustrating indeed
Must be hard sleeping at night   21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 7th Feb 2020 9:56 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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Eh?
It would just have been so much easier to have just bought a 7th Discovery. One that was a direct replacement for the previous 6 I’d owned. By your own admittance, the D5 isn’t a direct replacement for the D4. 
I sleep well, helped no doubt by the thought of the permagrin that I’ll get from driving the SDV8 and the reassurance of the knowledge that despite its looks at least one person loves the D5. 😀 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 7th Feb 2020 10:36 am |
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