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D5- my wish list of D4 shortfalls to be addressed
So great car that the D4 is, it has a few niggles that I would like to see improved on the D5.
No particular order of relevance, except no1.
1: To be able to drive through a puddle without an avalanche of water hitting the windscreen and obscuring your view. Yes could drive much slower but when the wifes Swift can cope with much deeper puddles at sensible speeds and still not throw all the water onto your screen, surley we can expect a true 4x4 to cope with handling such hazards.
2; Improved heating or routing of windscreen washer pipes. Even with nozzle heaters and a fair strength mix in does not take much for the nozzles to freeze up. Once again Suzuki Swift even without heated nozzles has never once frozen up in winter conditions.
3:More usable storage in front and side of driver, something that has been reduced over subsequent Discovery models.
4:Thinner front roof struts, quiet fat on D4 and can hide a whole vehicle approaching if not careful.
5;The ability to hold Off road height at a higher speed (45mph?)
6;Improved navigation system.
7:Washer for rear camera.
8; Larger profile tyres in 19 and 20 inch sizes 19 x 60 and 20 x 55, Previous size now fitted to sport and looks better as well as being more functional.
9: Less wind noise when windows open and no horrible buffeting noises when only rear windows open.
10: Rear netting or perhaps plastic storage holders above front of rear passengers, like D1 D2 had. (Handy map storage)
11: rear storage bins like D1 and D2 again
12: 5 seat option so space could be better utilized in back. Perhaps false floor like in old Sport.
13:Fitted inclinometer.
14: Intergrated into grill driving light option
15: Slightly more second row footroom.
16:A real dipstick
17: A real gear stick
18: Larger info / stat nav screen
19: fold out seat option that can used to sit in rear of load area facing outwards, like so:
20: More resilient paintwork.
21: Better rear view when middle rear headrest in situ or folding middle headrest.
22: Dual battery option.
23: To be able to listen to radio / watch Tv for at least 30 mins with engine off, without risk of flat battery.
24: Run / view videos through fitted car screens from tablet or phone, just like audio
25: At least one permanent live socket probably in rear
26: Bigger fuel tank used to be 95 litres on D2 which gave 500 miles plus
27: Hard load space cover option, something similar to full fat.
28: Proper secure locking towbar.
29: Proper spare wheel theft protection
30: Proper safe and sturdy bottle jackD4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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21st Jan 2017 5:08 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Send an email to the designer in chief, otherwise known as Posh Spice.
21st Jan 2017 5:26 pm
Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
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I've only one - PRICE.
Just my opinion. Why would you want to,
5. Hold off road height at 45mph plus? Seems excessive.
7. Washer for rear camera? It's going to get filthy no matter what you do.
13. An inclinometer is a complete WOT. I go by eyesight.
14. Never been one for adding unnecessary lights.
17. A real gear stick? I just wouldn't buy one with that retro type thing.
19. The fold out rear boot seat looks absolutely hideous.
24. Wouldn't want to run videos at all, never mind via rear screen on your iPhone.
21st Jan 2017 6:34 pm
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
D5 actually does 90% of that listPeter
21st Jan 2017 6:43 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Rear Camera Wash Wipe would be very handy Nissan do one for their models
I want
Bigger load space
More Power and Performance preferably via Hybrid with total EV mode
Properly decent Nav and Cabin Technology (Tesla Style big screen)
Over the air upgrades for life of warranty and ability to purchase new features.
Sliding Rear Doors
Rugged boot option with no carpets just high quality rubber coatings also liked the hardwood floor they had in some D5 Concepts.
Really top notch RSE system with modern integration options
Ability to slide 2nd & 3rd row seats individually and then easily remove them from the car to make a vanMY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
21st Jan 2017 8:32 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
Hybrid Tech - but then price would go up further
Volvo style touch screen
TFT dash as per Range Rover23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
21st Jan 2017 9:17 pm
APL
Member Since: 14 Sep 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 1130
5 seat version is already an option on all models of D5 as far as I know....2016 Discovery 4 Commercial
2019 Discovery 5 HSE
22nd Jan 2017 12:51 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
Not available in the UK, 7 seat only.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
22nd Jan 2017 12:57 am
IvanR
Member Since: 17 Apr 2015
Location: Australia
Posts: 1
By the OP "D5- my wish list of D4 shortfalls to be addressed"
Well here in Aus we have some issues that we hoped would have been addressed in the D5
1. Tyres, Tyres and Tyres. !9" tyres as the smallest option the the D4 is a major issue. No other proper 4wd uses them meaning they are unavailable outside the major cities. All the other 4wds (LC200, Prado, Jeep etc have option of 17" which are more suitable for outback touring. and are more readily available.
2. Tow Hitch. How is it possible to make such a basic, simple piece of equipment so bloody complicated and prone to failure as to make it unsuitable for its intended purpose beggers belief.
3. As has been mentioned by OP the lowering of the suspension at 50KpH is a pain as many unmade roads can be driven at 70-80 kph but the raised height is need to clear the hump in the middle of the track. (when you need to cover 600 to 700 km in a day, 40 kph doesnt cut it).
4. Size of Fuel tank. At about 82 Litres usable is simple too small for our distances, especially when towing a 2.5 ton van. I can get 90 litres in my D1 tank. The Toymotas in Aus have 130 litres plus.
These would be the most complained about issues for the D3/D4 in Australia.
What this has done is create an industry to address these shortcomings.
Such as after market rims (18"), Mitch Hitch to fix the Land Rover hitch (known as the plough).
LLAMS for adjusting ride height and long range tanks (80-100 litres).
I was hoping these items may have been addressed in the D5 but I fear not. Ma y have to look at Toymotas.
Ivan
22nd Jan 2017 4:10 am
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Re: D5- my wish list of D4 shortfalls to be addressed
lespes wrote:
D5- my wish list of D4 shortfalls to be addressed
I hate to break this to you but it's already been designed and is in production 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
22nd Jan 2017 4:36 am
lynalldiscovery
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To the OP number 1 has been an issue on discos since 1989 I kid you not, its nearly had me a couple of times over the years
22nd Jan 2017 5:57 am
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
Air suspension set up for rutted roads ....
Land Rover’s four-corner air suspension system not only improves ride quality when driving on-road but also provides greater capability when off-roading.
With its two-stage off-road mode the automatic system is able to vary between two ride heights of +40mm and +75mm. At speeds below 50km/h (31mph) the +75mm setting is available and for faster speeds on rutted dirt roads, between 50-80km/h (31-50mph), the vehicle will operate at +40mm. In addition, the new Speed Lowering function cuts drag and enhances fuel economy by automatically reducing the ride height by 13mm at cruising speeds above 105km/h (65mph).
Other functions include enhanced tuning to prevent the suspension from lowering in deep wading conditions, as well as preventing belly-out situations where the centre of the vehicle rests on the ground.Peter
22nd Jan 2017 7:11 am
petersw
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D5 tyres
Quote:
Larger profile tyres in 19 and 20 inch sizes 19 x 60 and 20 x 55, Previous size now fitted to sport and looks better as well as being more functional.
Looking at the manual's preferred sizes for winter tyres I believe they have.Peter
22nd Jan 2017 7:38 am
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Re: D5- my wish list of D4 shortfalls to be addressed
DG wrote:
lespes wrote:
D5- my wish list of D4 shortfalls to be addressed
I hate to break this to you but it's already been designed and is in production
And we thought it was all just a bad dream.
22nd Jan 2017 7:52 am
Dusty
Member Since: 23 Sep 2013
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I see a few people are wishing for more functionality in the 'Off Road' department, especially those who use them in more testing terrains.
But as most D5's will be used by the 'the school run brigade' mainly residing in Chelsea, I think the chances of LR investing more money in it's off road ability are quite slim Discovery 4 HSE
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