Member Since: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Highlands
Posts: 266
I think I'll be lucky if I get 20k out of mine so not impressed. I'm tempted to buy a set of verdes now at that price.I'm to old to know everything......
D4 Gone over to the Dark Side (D5)
D3 gone ...... But now want one for knocking about! Is this a form of insanity?
18th Nov 2016 7:24 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
euangibson wrote:
I understood the Zero was being phased out,and the Verde was going to be only option shortly ?
That would be such a shame. In the correct size, it's the only sensible 20", road biased, but mud and snow capable tyre available.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
18th Nov 2016 8:28 pm
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
Arrived today and I'm off to get them fitted shortly....they are labelled "LR" on the Pirelli sticker...
I'll report back later....
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
25th Nov 2016 3:22 pm
Klinkhammer
Member Since: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Highlands
Posts: 266
Keen to hear what you think of them as I really think they're my next tyre.I'm to old to know everything......
D4 Gone over to the Dark Side (D5)
D3 gone ...... But now want one for knocking about! Is this a form of insanity?
25th Nov 2016 8:13 pm
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
Well initial impressions are good.....bearing in mind I've just gone from well-worn Zeros,which in my experience go hard and unyielding when worn and tend to tramline,so any fresh tyre was going to feel better.
It was -2c this evening and the journey was on tight,greasy rural back roads.Very sure-footed in the conditions,and a much more pliant ride,the car was definitely less crashy in potholes.....A couple of miles of fast A-roads to finish confirmed they were pretty quiet too.
a good start and I'm expecting them to get even better as they scrub in...so strong first impressions in potentially tricky conditions. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
25th Nov 2016 9:07 pm
Alan B
Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Fife
Posts: 6528
Euan,
They sound like my GG at3
Gave it some welly to join the A1 last week, ask the native with the flashing dog collar
Think I scared the sh17 out of him on one of the bends as I was pushing harder than usual to get home at a sensible time
But tyres get a massive D3 57 xs Stornaway grey
D2 02 commercial silver gone but a great servant and won't be forgotten
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26th Nov 2016 1:40 am
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
I'll definitely look towards the GG at3 for my 2nd set on 19's....I'm still concerned by the racket the last ones made at road speed.....I never had an issue with the GG 18's on my D3 so will need to hear a bit more feedback before I commit to them "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
26th Nov 2016 8:57 am
Klinkhammer
Member Since: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Highlands
Posts: 266
It was the noise towards the end of their life that made me change the GG ATs on the last car, they were 19s and it was dreadful.I'm to old to know everything......
D4 Gone over to the Dark Side (D5)
D3 gone ...... But now want one for knocking about! Is this a form of insanity?
26th Nov 2016 9:12 pm
Braehead
Member Since: 01 Oct 2016
Location: Fife
Posts: 217
euangibson wrote:
Well initial impressions are good.....bearing in mind I've just gone from well-worn Zeros,which in my experience go hard and unyielding when worn and tend to tramline,so any fresh tyre was going to feel better.
It was -2c this evening and the journey was on tight,greasy rural back roads.Very sure-footed in the conditions,and a much more pliant ride,the car was definitely less crashy in potholes.....A couple of miles of fast A-roads to finish confirmed they were pretty quiet too.
a good start and I'm expecting them to get even better as they scrub in...so strong first impressions in potentially tricky conditions.
How are you getting on with them after a month?
10th Jan 2017 9:48 am
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
Still really like them.
This week was my first real opportunity to try them in low temperatures,and I found them very predictable on greasy cold roads.
I've never had dedicated Winter tyres,and these are my first All-Season tyres,but in comparison to what I've had before they are definitely more surefooted on cold roads.
I've only ever used an AT tyre during the winter,If we get the light dusting of snow that's forecast it will be interesting to see how they perform "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
10th Jan 2017 10:18 am
2Springers
Member Since: 12 Apr 2012
Location: Surrey
Posts: 109
Late to this thread but I have been running the All Season Verdes on 19's and they are far superior to the Scorpions I had as OE and the GG ATs I ran subsequently.
They've been on the vehicle since July (c 5k miles) and they been excellent in all temperatures from 35c in the South of France to the -8C temperatures we experienced this week. I have had no issues with grip and the handling has proved a revelation - better than the Scorpions by a country mile. No problems in snow or ice the past few weeks so wouldn't be put off by the tread pattern either.
Noise levels are obviously way lower than the ATs which were fab for tyre wear but at the cost of handling and noise levels.
Fuel consumption is a contentious issue but mine has gone up by around 3mpg since fitting these tyres.
If you need a road biased tyre I would highly recommend these.
27th Jan 2017 10:53 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
They may be All Season, but as pure road tyres, does anyone miss the Mud + Snow capability of the standard Scorpions?
The Scorpions do seem to be short lived and getting very costly too; I'd like to find a better alternative that still has the wide sipes that self cleer themselves of mud and snow.
28th Jan 2017 7:01 am
Somerset Bumpkin
Member Since: 08 Mar 2015
Location: Gosport
Posts: 234
The Zeros might look a bit more aggressive but I don't think they really have any mud capability to be honest that would make you miss them. I'm seriously thinking about going for the Verdes next for the summer. Zeros are fine but after 20k on mine they feel dodgy on any ice, ABS cuts in very quick under braking.
28th Jan 2017 7:07 pm
2Springers
Member Since: 12 Apr 2012
Location: Surrey
Posts: 109
I am with Bumpkin - I had exactly the same experiences after my zeros started to wear. Do I miss them ? Nope - tramlined badly and wore out at 18k miles. Pirelli have superseded them with the Verde range and from my experience they have done a good job. I did have a quick nostalgic look at my spare tyre today which is a zero and the tread isn't that aggressive at all. Of course tyre choice is a really controversial topic on the forum so I respect everyone's views. My experience having run the zeros, General ATs and now the Verde All Seasons is that the new tyre is a good one. I was lucky to speak to Dean at AjS and he pointed me to the Verdes and I think he made a good call.
28th Jan 2017 7:30 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
Both the Verde and the Zeros are current tyres and the both have been around for a few years now (I even had some Verdes on a FL2 for a short while back in 2012 when ATS told me that they had replaced the Zeros in Pirelli's range! )
I would give the Verde a go, but I must retain that mild off road and snow cability of the Zeros. Although to their credit the Verdes, with their All Season rating, should fair better on very cold, but snow free, surfaces.
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