Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
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trevorb1 wrote:Regarding the drop down flap, if I remember correctly, if you use the boot open button on remote tailgate opens and flap also drops, if you use the button on tailgate only the tailgate opens and theres buttons on lhs of boot inner to drop the flap, not sure if its configurable, didnt get chance to figure that out.
Spot on and not configurable MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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Pollski
Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Kent
Posts: 149
 
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Quote:You don't waggle your foot you kick and once you know how it's easy and works every time
You mean kicking the car in utter frustration while hopping and sliding around in the mud on one foot 
He he ... sorry Russell. I couldn't resist. She'd only had it 3 days so guess it's a bit of a learning curve. My16 HSE Landmark - 2016 - Current. Indus Silver
My11 HSE - 2011- 2016. Stornoway Grey
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| 4th Mar 2017 11:35 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
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I tried exactly the same wave foot under near or off side bumper but did jot work ended up getting manual out and it says "use a kicking motion under near or off side number and NOT a waggle motion" we'll blow me down worked first time and every time since
Laugh all you like but it is good and useful in many situations MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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| 4th Mar 2017 11:45 pm |
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Pollski
Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Kent
Posts: 149
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I will let her know My16 HSE Landmark - 2016 - Current. Indus Silver
My11 HSE - 2011- 2016. Stornoway Grey
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| 5th Mar 2017 10:25 am |
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simonej
Member Since: 24 Aug 2014
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 103
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I had a poke around one yesterday and thought it looked pretty good, inside and out - including the rear!
However, there were a few things that instantly put me off:
The rear seats are a disgrace and I'd be embarrassed to ask adults to sit in the back - truly dreadful.
The front seat armrests are too low and seem pretty pointless now, although the centre console seemed high enough to use instead.
The tailgate is a complete waste of time and I'd really miss ours on the D4.
The steering wheel felt far too thin, even for my girly hands.
The whole thing didn't 'wow' me and I thought it was completely underwhelming.
I'm sort of pleased that I was underwhelmed as it means I don't fee the urge to rush out and order one. Maybe in a couple of years it will tick all the boxes but I suspect I'll either be waiting to see what the new defender is like or moving to another brand.
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| 5th Mar 2017 1:02 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7439
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simonej wrote:
However, there were a few things that instantly put me off:
The rear seats are a disgrace and I'd be embarrassed to ask adults to sit in the back - truly dreadful...
Would you car to elaborate?
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| 5th Mar 2017 4:56 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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Quote: The front seat armrests are too low and seem pretty pointless now, although the centre console seemed high enough to use instead.
Turn the knob thingy 
Edit: Apologies just seen you have a 2015, you must know the how it raises & lowers Peter
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| 5th Mar 2017 5:03 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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Quote: would you car to elaborate
Broom broom ? Peter
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| 5th Mar 2017 5:10 pm |
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simonej
Member Since: 24 Aug 2014
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 103
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Red Merle wrote:simonej wrote:
However, there were a few things that instantly put me off:
The rear seats are a disgrace and I'd be embarrassed to ask adults to sit in the back - truly dreadful...
Would you car to elaborate?
Yes, of course. It's been mentioned on here by many but before I saw them I honestly thought it couldn't be that bad! Basically I have three gripes:
The main one is the seat base is too low such that there is absolutely zero thigh support. With my feet flat on the floor I'd estimate there was about 4" between the back of my knee and the seat. Next is that the area under the front seat where you put your feet is also quite narrow and space is limited. Last is that the rear of the seat is too firm and flat. You don't 'sink' into the seat back like you should, you basically rest your back on what feels like a flat board.
I spend a lot of time in the back of taxis in cars of all makes and models and I genuinely can't think of one where I've instantly felt so uncomfortable. They are utterly dreadful.
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| 5th Mar 2017 5:30 pm |
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simonej
Member Since: 24 Aug 2014
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 103
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petersw wrote:Quote: The front seat armrests are too low and seem pretty pointless now, although the centre console seemed high enough to use instead.
Turn the knob thingy
Edit: Apologies just seen you have a 2015, you must know the how it raises & lowers
Haha, yeah I did try that. The pivot point seems to be set lower than on a D4 and as I tend to rest my arm at the rear of the rest raising the front made little difference. It's perhaps just a personal thing or perhaps just because it feels different to what I'm used to.
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| 5th Mar 2017 5:32 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7439
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simonej wrote:Red Merle wrote:simonej wrote:
However, there were a few things that instantly put me off:
The rear seats are a disgrace and I'd be embarrassed to ask adults to sit in the back - truly dreadful...
Would you car to elaborate?
Yes, of course. It's been mentioned on here by many but before I saw them I honestly thought it couldn't be that bad! Basically I have three gripes:
The main one is the seat base is too low such that there is absolutely zero thigh support. With my feet flat on the floor I'd estimate there was about 4" between the back of my knee and the seat. Next is that the area under the front seat where you put your feet is also quite narrow and space is limited. Last is that the rear of the seat is too firm and flat. You don't 'sink' into the seat back like you should, you basically rest your back on what feels like a flat board.
I spend a lot of time in the back of taxis in cars of all makes and models and I genuinely can't think of one where I've instantly felt so uncomfortable. They are utterly dreadful.
Thank you 
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| 5th Mar 2017 5:59 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
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A bit of an exaggeration IMO 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 5th Mar 2017 6:35 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
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Why? The rear seat's poor design seems to be a consistent theme. Both my daughters, who have travelled over 100,000 miles in the back of my old bus said the seats, and I'm para phrasing the conversation they had with the LR guy: ' they are rubbish and not very comfortable and access to the 3rd row was a stupid design'.
The girls should know because they have spent so much time in the back. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 5th Mar 2017 7:07 pm |
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JMack
Member Since: 02 Aug 2014
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 1517
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I sat in the back of one briefly on Friday afternoon.
Can't say it was either very comfortable or very uncomfortable. But that might be because I don't remember the last time I sat in the back seats of any vehicle for a journey, and don't have back seats in my D3 anyway. to compare it to.
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| 5th Mar 2017 7:12 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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First they came for the looks..... I had no looks so......
Then they came for the tailgate..... I had no tailgate so.....
Then they came for the seats ...... so I sat Peter
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| 5th Mar 2017 7:41 pm |
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