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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Being 6ft7" tall, it seems that the D5 may not be an option for me. Not that I'm particularly inspired by it anyway. It would be a compromise over the D4.
Shame, as I'm really comfortable in the D3/4 and regularly drive for long distances without needing to stop to stretch my legs. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
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I'm going to see it on Wednesday evening, on early shifts this week so I won't be spending a lot of time with it just enough to make my mind up. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 14th Nov 2016 4:17 pm |
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Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
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I'm just over 6' and I sat in front passenger and driver's seat in the version at Solihull last month. I found it perfectly adequate. 
The leg room in the second and third row doesn't bother me at all since I don't intend to drive the car from back there. Anyone sitting in those seats will be at my invitation and if they don't like it, they can always walk.  Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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| 14th Nov 2016 4:39 pm |
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richardch
Member Since: 27 Dec 2005
Location: Zurich
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yes even I can drive it at 6"6" but would be truly interesting to know the exterior and interior dimensions of D3/4 vs D5 as I suspect they have done some reverse engineering here in a very BAD way 
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| 14th Nov 2016 6:24 pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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fat bloke wrote:Prepare to be shot down in flames for saying that 
If you don't fit you don't fit.....
Not taste
Not a point view
A fact as opposed to opinions (which vary).
The D3/D4 was a benchmark concept, brilliant design, very well manufactured, in D3 days very well priced.....a winning formula
The following on here proves that...
The Discovery name lives on but on a compromised concept, with some really poor design choices.....my opinion but these concurr with lots of other opinions.....
Effectively the first MPV the J/LR have made.
But what of the NEW model for 2017....
SUV that's between the Evoke & the RRS......I wasn't told the badge if will wear....to me he same size as an F-Pace BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
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D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 14th Nov 2016 7:22 pm |
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richardch
Member Since: 27 Dec 2005
Location: Zurich
Posts: 458
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Some Facts
In the UK, the Discovery 5 will be sold as a seven-seat model only. Its boot capacity with the third row in place is 258 litres, but with only two rows in place there’s a useful 1,137 litres of storage. Folding down the third, fourth and fifth seats increases the Discovery’s load bay to an impressive 2,406 litres.
Disco 4
Loadspace volume behind: - litres (cu. feet)
1st row 2,558 (90.3) 7 seat (2,476 (87.4) 5 seat)
2nd row 1,192 (42.1) 7 seat (1,260 (44.5) 5 seat)
3rd row 280 (9.9) 7 seat
Indeed much LONGER car with MUCH less SPACE, what are they smoking at LR ??? this is a DISASTER
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| 14th Nov 2016 8:05 pm |
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armalites
Member Since: 17 Aug 2013
Location: Herefordshire
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LT wrote:Being 6ft7" tall, it seems that the D5 may not be an option for me. Not that I'm particularly inspired by it anyway. It would be a compromise over the D4.
Shame, as I'm really comfortable in the D3/4 and regularly drive for long distances without needing to stop to stretch my legs.
How tall were you before you started stretching your legs? IID PRO
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| 14th Nov 2016 9:01 pm |
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Wilco44
Member Since: 15 Apr 2015
Location: Somewhere in Time
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Saw one in the flesh tonight at Guy Salmon. Overall an underwhelming experience.
2nd row of seats are set so low my knees where up round my ears when sat in them and as a result no support under your legs.
Also you will need to make sure your three adult passengers get along because there going to be in each other laps when all are three sitting in 2nd row together.
Drivers seat was ok although a left hand drive so need to sit in right hand drive.
Going to another one in couple of weeks so will see if it seems any better 2nd time around.
Need a test drive before any final decision can be made and over a weekend to try out with family.
As has been said before it will no doubt sell loads, particularly to first time LR buyers who have not had the experience of ownership of D3's and D4's before.
Luckily as I have nearly 2.5 years left on current PCP contract I dont need to rush into making any decision any time soon.
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| 14th Nov 2016 9:56 pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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richardch wrote:Some Facts
In the UK, the Discovery 5 will be sold as a seven-seat model only. Its boot capacity with the third row in place is 258 litres, but with only two rows in place there’s a useful 1,137 litres of storage. Folding down the third, fourth and fifth seats increases the Discovery’s load bay to an impressive 2,406 litres.
Disco 4
Loadspace volume behind: - litres (cu. feet)
1st row 2,558 (90.3) 7 seat (2,476 (87.4) 5 seat)
2nd row 1,192 (42.1) 7 seat (1,260 (44.5) 5 seat)
3rd row 280 (9.9) 7 seat
Indeed much LONGER car with MUCH less SPACE, what are they smoking at LR ??? this is a DISASTER
I apologise up front to those who are marketing people....but
If there were any model concept clinics some years back.....showing this vehicle as we are being shown right now......would we have got the D5 as it is ? Possibly not.....
I do & many others don't need or for that matter want a marketing someone to tell me what I actually need....strange as it may seem I can work that out for myself. Moving on from a D2 the Disco 3 was a simply breathtaking vehicle.....to me it still is & because there is a new vehicle named a Discovery doesn't diminish or alter the real thing......the D3 / 4 will to me stand as a design icon.
Calling this vehicle the Discovery is to me a travesty as LR are capitalising on a models name......Much the same a Freelander Replacement.... a Disco Sport.....I know it's only a name but.
The whole point about a brand having a range of vehicles is model diversity or differentiation....models to suit all needs & tastes....the range is now bunched up at the top end. That's the whole point of a range
Landrover created the SUV leaders.... others merely followed. LR brand Leaders
These are in essence practical family/working/utility (the "U" in SUV) vehicles....first......style icons second.....bit like Hunter wellies, Belstaff & Barbour jackets, Burberry, Range Rover.... Discovery....practical things not intended to be stylish "fashion items" .....but because they are practical, usable, functional.....GOOD.....the market takes them on......will this happen to the D5 ????
Different yes.....an advancement maybe not......style debatable .....missing specific items like 2nd row seat comfort (I'm 5'11") god help taller passengers relegated to these seats.
The point has been missed that it's critical to have 5 really 1st & 2nd row seats....seats 6 & 7 are complimentary...the D5 has lost the plot in sacrificing 2nd row rear seat room / comfort for the MPV concept. Abissmal.
The LR marketing people must be on mega bucks.....but the results if judging by the D5 are they simply aren't capable. Said it before .... smart companies take the existing customers with them. BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 14th Nov 2016 10:09 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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What marketing say and what finance do are two totally different things. Then add into this the polotics and wims of the leadership and you end up with a D5.
I'm a marketeer and I left the coprprate world becuase the leadership team alwyas defaulted to what they knew or thought rather than the reality of the market. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
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| 14th Nov 2016 10:22 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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If sales are the only measure of success then we'll have to wait a few years to see if the D5 is any good. The mistake is thinking sales are the only measure of success. What's just happened to this brand is very sad long term.
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| 14th Nov 2016 10:35 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Either way if we like it or we hate it we are stuck with it as there will not be any major change to the model for several years yet due to the costs already incurred getting this model out and the costs it would take to re-do it all again. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 14th Nov 2016 10:49 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14456
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In the end if the yummy mummys like it then all will be good. All te things that are important to us are irrelevant to them. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 14th Nov 2016 10:56 pm |
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Craig_d1
Member Since: 09 Feb 2012
Location: Camberley, Surrey
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If anyone is going to see it in the next couple of days, please could they measure the distance from the seat base to the floor(footwell). I forgot when I saw it, and have just been through all the LR stuff and can't find the measurements. I'm going to measure my D4 tomorrow and would like a comparison. Thxs in advance if anyone remembers
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| 15th Nov 2016 12:18 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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The other measurement that's nobody yet knows is, with the suspension as low as it will go, the distance from the top edge of the fully lowered electric plank / dachshund drawbridge, to the ground beneath (the "dog jump" height).
It's currently 19 1/2" on the D4, if that were significantly lower, it would be a huge +ve for the car. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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| 15th Nov 2016 7:55 am |
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