Wilco44
Member Since: 15 Apr 2015
Location: Somewhere in Time
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I think that all of us on the forum should give a big  to all the early adopters of the new D5 for making this sacrifice on our behalf to enable unbiased feedback on the new D5 and particularly the operation of the utility flap!   Firm not hard
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Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
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24 hours! Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
D4 SDV6 SE Tech Kaikoura Stone MY15.
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| 8th Jan 2017 7:18 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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What happens if the "crap" takes off.
Will the bottom fall out of D4 prices? Peter
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| 8th Jan 2017 8:41 pm |
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dantheman
Member Since: 12 Mar 2010
Location: Essex
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Hopefully then I can afford one!!  Today is the oldest you've been and the youngest you'll ever be again.
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| 8th Jan 2017 8:43 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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petersw wrote:What happens if the "crap" takes off.
Will the bottom fall out of D4 prices?
If everyone wants to sell their D4's to buy the "crap" then yes!
If the crap takes off with new buyers to the brand (yummy mummy, fashionista, blind people etc) then there will still be a market for a real utilitarian luxury classic.
 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
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| 9th Jan 2017 2:39 am |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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crews control wrote:Deleted :
I'm just getting too negative about this brand now...
Probably best if I stop commenting on this subject.
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| 9th Jan 2017 12:59 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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As the D5 is not really a direct replacement for the D4, I think that used D4 prices will hold up well. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
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| 9th Jan 2017 2:07 pm |
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jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
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As Dusty Springfield used to say................Wishing and hoping!!
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| 9th Jan 2017 2:18 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
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I'm not so sure. Maybe in the very short term, but with dirty diesel likely to be penalised and the increase in hybrids like the Volvo T8 and IPace, I think prices of large diesel cars will fall.
Its certainly left me in a quandary. I was all set to buy a D5 but its not a replacement for my old bus. I like the Merc GLS 350d and this would do but its still a big diesel. I've always been a cash buyer our cars but I'm now thinking of leasing in the short term so I don't get landed with a big diesel car that might be worth little, but taxed heavily via congestion charging etc.
Perhaps the T8 is the solution or should I hope for a hybrid defender? Its all so confusing.  New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
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| 9th Jan 2017 2:22 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
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I was going to buy a Hummer v3 but despite there urban hard looks it seems they fell out of favour. Cannot understand why 
Perhaps there are more people that want a better off road perfomer with discreet looks than the old fashion "hard core" looks?
Time will tell. Peter
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| 9th Jan 2017 2:36 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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In all seriousness Euro 6 spec could be important, long term. Peter
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| 9th Jan 2017 2:39 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Moo wrote:I'm not so sure. Maybe in the very short term, but with dirty diesel likely to be penalised and the increase in hybrids like the Volvo T8 and IPace, I think prices of large diesel cars will fall.
Its certainly left me in a quandary. I was all set to buy a D5 but its not a replacement for my old bus. I like the Merc GLS 350d and this would do but its still a big diesel. I've always been a cash buyer our cars but I'm now thinking of leasing in the short term so I don't get landed with a big diesel car that might be worth little, but taxed heavily via congestion charging etc.
Perhaps the T8 is the solution or should I hope for a hybrid defender? Its all so confusing.
Why not buy a lightly used MY16 D4 and keep it for ages as per your D3? 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
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| 9th Jan 2017 3:15 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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jimbg wrote:As Dusty Springfield used to say................Wishing and hoping!!
Very much, so. However D3 prices are still holding up well. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
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| 9th Jan 2017 3:17 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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For this reason?
Euro 6 regs
See my above post for details
"The SMMT is attempting to ensure all diesel cars aren't tarred with the same brush, and is drawing a line between older diesels and the new generation of clean diesel models. The concern is that confusion could lead buyers to snub the newer Euro 6 diesels when they deliver similar pollution reduction as the petrol alternatives." Peter
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| 9th Jan 2017 3:17 pm |
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