I agree the HGV scenario couldn't arise on that type of crossing, as it has a central "refuge" area for pedestrians. On a straight one across a two lane road it could though.
Would it be okay if it had been a motorbike instead of a cyclist?
I think the answer has to be that all road users, whatever their mode of transport, have to play by the same rules.
The cyclist in the video overtakes a vehicle on the Zig Zags immediately before the crossing, which is I believe another contravention. Plus another pedestrian had commenced crossing from the the left of the cyclist.
With the HGV, yes it could, but that'd be entailing going into the other side of the road also, and with a motor bike, not as it happened, no. A bicycle is smaller, lighter, more agile and offers better visibility and spacial awareness than any other vehicle, and it's a cyclist and only a cyclist we're talking about, not anything else. It doesn't have to be OK for any other scenario, any other vehicle etc. because it is this one and this one alone that applies.
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The reason for the rule about the crossing being clear is that you don't know if the person will suddenly change direction or stop.
Seen quite a lot of people change their minds mid cross when they realise they are going the wrong way.
Which funnily enough is what the guy did, the bike braked and carnage didn't exactly result. Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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It was close though and was by luck not by judgement. It only take 1 in 10 not to go that way for it to be pretty easy to understand the rule
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Which funnily enough is what the guy did, the bike braked and carnage didn't exactly result.
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Just luck? For it to have been luck it'd have to be way closer/faster. It can't be that close when the chap actively moved over to shove into him. He slowed the bike in the totally unexpected circumstances of the pedestrian deliberately standing in his way which is arguably "worse" (as in faster acting) than had a pedestrian changed their mind. There were safe "exits" from every possible scenario above a million to one probability, and he still had the capacity to take further action if necessary.
It's not just because he didn't hit him that makes it "right" - it's that the chances of him ever having done so were as good as ziltch. Think what you want but that is the bottom line.
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