Oh dear, that just smacks of desperation. It gives some ideas of where we may go with the next model with the lighting, which seems very much FFRR, not utility/separate branding? Well, guess that pushes back my next purchase by another 18 months as I'm not digging out the best part of £50k for an Airfix Disco3.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
3rd Sep 2013 7:56 am
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^^^agreed......if that's design clues for the "D5".... Count me out......2015......new D5 or 2 year-old RRS....? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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3rd Sep 2013 8:08 am
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What's the LR4 going to have on the bonnet?
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3rd Sep 2013 8:10 am
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euangibson wrote:
^^^agreed......if that's design clues for the "D5".... Count me out......
Shirley you can't seriously make that comparison ...this is a very gentle facelift for an end of life motor. You need to man up Euan
As for the US ...they did say that the LR4 was going to be dropped in favour of Discovery21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
3rd Sep 2013 8:28 am
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What are they thinking by dropping the Land Rover brand from the bonnet??
I am struggling to think of another car that has the model name on the front. I will be reaching for the dental floss.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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DG wrote:
euangibson wrote:
^^^agreed......if that's design clues for the "D5".... Count me out......
Shirley you can't seriously make that comparison ...this is a very gentle facelift for an end of life motor. You need to man up Euan
I can make that comparison......and stop calling me Shirley....
I bet there will be more than a hint of that front end on the D5.....and it's a complete dog's dinner IMHO,end of life freshen-up or not.
While I respect people's choice of bright fog light bezel surrounds,that looks horrible.....as I said,smacks of Victoria Beckham sticking her skinny nose in......again
I think the D3 was a very masculine car,as befits the brand.Happy to admit it was watered down a bit for the D4.......but if they are keen on a distinct brand gap between RR and LR,then to my mind less should be more, going forward.....
Actually it may not have been Victoria Beckham that did that at all........possibly that other paragon of good taste, Elton John ? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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3rd Sep 2013 9:30 am
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Land Rover Discovery 4 MY2014
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Fresh Design, Improved Economy and New Features for 2014 Discovery 03 September 2013
â– Exterior refresh with distinctive new face and new 'Discovery' badging
â– New highly efficient 340PS 3.0 V6 S/C petrol engine replaces 5.0 V8
â– Intelligent Stop-Start improves fuel economy and reduces emissions
â– New optional single-speed transfer box for revised four-wheel drive powertrain
â– Eight-speed ZF automatic transmission for all models
â– Upgraded models available to order now with deliveries from mid-November (UK.)
Land Rover announces the upgraded 2014 Discovery. The multi-award winning vehicle gets a new look, new badging, new V6 petrol engine, new fuel stretching technology, new single-speed drivetrain, improved audio systems and a new range of driver assistance, comfort and safety features to broaden its appeal even further. The core attributes are carried over into the 2014 models which will be available to order now with deliveries from mid-November.
"The hugely popular Discovery continues to move from strength to strength and the addition of the new 3.0 S/C petrol engine to the 2014 range underpins our commitment to delivering power with sustainability. As one of the world's most stylish, capable and versatile SUVs, the Discovery is the perfect vehicle for people who enjoy living an active lifestyle to the full," said Land Rover Global Brand Director, John Edwards.
For 2014, Discovery has been given a new 'face' and numerous detail exterior changes. A new front grille, new front bumper, new headlamp design, new daytime running lights with a distinctive LED signature, plus two new alloy wheel designs, further enhance the Discovery's appearance. To give vehicles a heightened level of distinction, the optional 'Black Design Pack' remains available for 2014 models, with revised detailing, plus 19-inch and 20-inch black alloy wheels.
New 'Discovery' badging
In recognition of the Discovery's established identity, the refreshed exterior design for 2014 also incorporates a change of identity for the vehicle in many markets. For the first time ever, the name 'Discovery' name replaces 'Land Rover' on the bonnet and the number 4 will be removed from the tailgate leaving just the word 'Discovery.'
Engine badging moves from the tailgate to an ingot mounted on each of the front doors. This side badging will reflect the engine type and appear as either, 'SCV6,' 'SDV6' or 'TDV6' in markets where the lower-power diesel engine is offered. In the USA and the Middle East the vehicle's badging will remain as previous models.
Highly efficient petrol V6 replaces V8
Underlining Land Rover's commitment to power with sustainability, the 5-litre V8 petrol engine is replaced with the highly efficient 3.0 V6 S/C and fuel-stretching Intelligent Stop-Start technology is introduced on all petrol and diesel engines in a number of key markets. All models are equipped with an eight-speed ZF automatic transmission.
The new V6 generates 340PS and torque of 450Nm to deliver acceleration from 0-6mph in 7.7 seconds and a top speed 121mph. Thanks to the new unit's enhanced efficiency and the fitting of Intelligent Stop-Start, the 2014 Discovery with this engine produces just 269g/km of CO2.
In markets where diesel is popular, the 2014 Discovery will be available with two 'carry-over' 3-litre engines - the 211PS 3.0 TDV6 and the class-leading 256PS 3.0 SDV6 - with CO2 emissions reduced to 207g/km and 213g/km, and fuel consumption improved to 36.2mpg (combined cycle) and 35.3mpg for the SDV6.
New optional single-speed transfer box
For 2014 models, buyers will be offered a choice of two four-wheel drive systems with the new single-speed transfer box or the carry-over twin-speed transfer box which offers high and low range for the most demanding off-road conditions.
The single-speed transfer box acknowledges that some customers do not need to fully exploit the Discovery's off-road capabilities. Mechanically controlled, it weighs 18kg less than the two-speed box, features a Torsen differential and provides a 42/58 percent front-rear torque split.
New driver aids and premium audio
The new range of driver assistance, comfort and safety features for the 2014 Discovery include: Wade Sensing (a technology unique to Land Rover), Blind Spot Monitoring, Closing Vehicle Sensing, Reverse Traffic Detection and T-junction Cameras.
To align the 2014 Discovery with other Range Rover vehicles, it will be available with Meridian premium audio. The standard system features 8 speakers and 380 Watts of power, while the Meridian Surround system produces an impressive 825 Watts output and features 17 speakers.
Technical Specifications
3.0L V6 Diesel (UK/Euro)
3.0L V6 S/C Petrol (Euro)
3.0L V6 S/C Petrol (US)
Engine type
3.0L SDV6 Diesel
3.0L SCV6 Petrol
3.0L SCV6 Petrol
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3rd Sep 2013 9:33 am
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Seriously, is this supposed to be progression?
I know which I prefer...
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3rd Sep 2013 9:38 am
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Robbie wrote:
I am struggling to think of another car that has the model name on the front.
Range Rover?
3rd Sep 2013 9:42 am
Crimdog81
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I can understand offering a RRS with a single speed box (maybe) but a disco?
I like progression, I like the new styling on the FFR, the evoque, to a lesser extent the sport, this I'm not sure about.
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3rd Sep 2013 10:09 am
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highbayrack wrote:
Looks to be going down the agricultural route to me
So...?? That's what all LR vehicles were originally for!!
It would be interesting to do a survey on here asking how many people actually go off road (not green-laning)with their cars.....not too many I would guess!
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3rd Sep 2013 10:09 am
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Robbie wrote:
I am struggling to think of another car that has the model name on the front. I will be reaching for the dental floss.
My 52 plate Defender has 'Defender' on the front. Although its on a grill plaque rather than across the bonnet. Its only the latest Defenders that have got LAND ROVER!
3rd Sep 2013 10:13 am
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