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brake hoses
Hi all
Just been looking at the service schedule sheet and noticed "all flexible brake hoses" should be replaced at 6 years.
my question is, to those that it applies, have you all had this done.
9th Jan 2012 8:15 pm
race.it
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interesting point to check mine also
9th Jan 2012 10:12 pm
snailcove
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never done it to any of my cars before ,if it fails the mot yes ,but i think a good look will do me . how happy are you with your family on board knowing they are supposed to be changed
9th Jan 2012 10:51 pm
ron3005
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Just had the big service done at a main dealer 7 years old they asked if i wanted them changed because of age .I then asked about the condition of the pipes and they said they where ok with no problems so never got them changed.
10th Jan 2012 3:40 pm
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Same here.
Part of my weekly check but if my mileage starts to increase I may get them sorted.All things shipping, storage, transport. UK and worldwide.
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ron3005 wrote:
Just had the big service done at a main dealer 7 years old they asked if i wanted them changed because of age .I then asked about the condition of the pipes and they said they where ok with no problems so never got them changed.
Strong call by them. They are more likely to corrode from the inside out than show signs of damage/wear from the outside. Brake fluid is unpleasant stuff.
Hoses should be changed at about the 6 year point. You can't see what you can't see... PAGODA
10th Jan 2012 8:17 pm
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I really would not skimp on the flexi change as they are very difficult to assess from the outside. As some insurance companies seem hell bent on wriggling out of claims I would not want the issue of time-expired brake lines coming up.
I had mine done as per the schedule and they did not cost much.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Got these to do as well. Anyone know roughly what the cost will be on top of the service? Mine's due a 105k service but have had cam belts done when turbo was done as body off job so just an A service.
10th Jan 2012 8:30 pm
hugeviking
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Thanks for all the replies.
I can't remember them being discussed on here before so I thought I'd ask.
if they deteriorate from the inside I guess replacement is sensible. I assume they are fairly easy to swap but can anyone tell me if bleeding the brakes is straightforward.
All the best Andi.
10th Jan 2012 8:53 pm
pagoda
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With the rider that I've never done hoses on a disco, bleeding brakes isn't so hard. Cars with ABS like these would need to have the actuators activated to get a complete fluid change and I assume this would need something like a fault mate or other box of wizardry. That said, it's not vital to conducting a fluid change, and having done it just using normal methods (say, a pressure bleeder or better (in my view) a suction bleeder) you'll be in a much better position than not having done it. Fluid should be changed every few years.
On a not too dissimilar subject...on older (classic) cars coolant should be changed every few years as its chemistry changes over time and it becomes corrosive and is especially damaging to alloy heads. I have no idea what the service schedule says about LR coolant changes. As a rule (admittedly on an older vehicle) I change coolant and brake/clutch fluid every 2 years, and hoses at 6 years. I've done the same with the Disco, more or less. (I think 3 years and 4 years).PAGODA
10th Jan 2012 9:27 pm
J@mes
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My Indi suggested not to bother having them done when I had my 75K done.2014 D4 XS
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Land Rover brake hoses are unlikely to be like Land Rover ball joints. The odds are that the Land Rover hoses will be good internally for 20 years if they are only exposed only to good brake fluid. As such, I would spend my money on replacing the brake fluid at least every five years and not worry about the hoses.
If a hose does fail, it will most likely start to sweat first and that can usually be seen; an actual split is unlikely unless some rock or tree branch gets to it. In that case, new or old, you will then have the opportunity to consider replacing the other lines as well.
Probably I would worry more about the metal brake lines corroding from the outside than I would the rubber ones popping. Corrosion of brake lines usually starts around tie down clips and where lines pass thru metal.
And if the guy changing your brake bads lets the calipers hang from the hoses, well that may be considered testing, but it is not the hose that is being tested.2005 LR3 HSE 4.4L AJ-V8 petrol; Traxide Dual Battery; PIAA 2500K Yellow Ion H11 Fog Light bulbs; CounterAct LT-2 Capacitive Corrosion control; LLumar AIR80 Blue clear Infra Red blocking side window film; Liftgate manual release; Schrader Valve "air in" mod to OEM air suspension reservoir tank; Akebono ceramic pads; OEM solid vented discs; LR4 design hitch receiver; Wiggs D4 MOST bluetooth module; Clock on the Dash; 3 Flash signal light mod; Backup Camera; 2015/16 Nav Data update.
11th Jan 2012 6:59 am
bambi
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Has anybody tried aeroquip brake lines as an aftermarket mod,?
11th Jan 2012 3:01 pm
character
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had mine done all round on the last service, brake fluid every 3 years.
IMO if LR say 6 years then the design and spec tollerances are 6 years although may last a bit longer - not worth skimping coz if they go when yer want them most and you've not followed the manufacturers recommendations, recon you'll be wanting legal cover on yer household insurance to fend off a claim for damages from your the aggreived party
doubt yer current motor insurance would pay out if an accident investigation officer from yer local plod considered the brake hoses failing to being the factor to another motorists demise
11th Jan 2012 5:16 pm
pagoda
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Re: Replace the brake fluid.
bbyer wrote:
Land Rover brake hoses are unlikely to be like Land Rover ball joints.
Or their EGR valves, their EPB modules, their crappy SATNAV, their ARB bushes, all the rest of their suspension componenets, their turbos (at a stretch), the alternators, their seat pads....
No reason to expect that any other components won't be just as crap. Given that the brakes are quite important in the scheme of things, why risk it?
Everyone loves an optimist. Please just stay in front of me!
Agree your point about the lines. 10 years seems right with checks where they may corrode at the attachment points.PAGODA
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