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sparkysteve
 


Member Since: 08 Jul 2017
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3
ACE

i believe that LR hasn't fitted the D3 or D4 with ACE?
is this correct?
and if so why have they done this?
  
Post #194050928th Apr 2018 8:07 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

ARBs are £1k each
Valve block is £1k
Pipes are another £1k to replace

Be thankful you don't have them Thumbs Up
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Post #194051228th Apr 2018 8:15 pm
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KiwiD4
 


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New Zealand 2011 Discovery 4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto BournvilleDiscovery 4

Welcome Sparkysteve.

My last D2 had ACE, my D4 doesn’t. The D4 handles way better anyway.

My assumption is that the D3/4 don’t need ACE as they are fully air suspended, and the setup of the airbags more than compensates for no ACE. I don’t know, but I imagine that the system basically replicates ACE by controlling the pressure in the airbags on each side independently - that’s certain,y how it feels when driving.

The change from the D2 platform to the D3 one brought some radically different handling, making ACE obsolete IMO.
 King of the typo.

MY11 D4 5.0 V8, Bournville, lots of goodies!

Now departed: '85 RR Vogue, '94 D1, '95 D1, '70 SIIA, '97 D1, '04 D2a. All V8, except for the SIIA - but that drank as much petrol anyway! 
 
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Leon
 


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England 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 4

Disco_Mikey wrote:
ARBs are £1k each
Valve block is £1k
Pipes are another £1k to replace

Be thankful you don't have them Thumbs Up


Been their, got the t-shirt.
  
Post #194052528th Apr 2018 9:18 pm
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lynalldiscovery
 


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United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Metropolis LE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

I still reckon the way a D2 can corner pretty much flat with its tyres howling is damned impressive, whereas the D3 is a barge Mr. Green
  
Post #194053028th Apr 2018 9:37 pm
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Leon
 


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Must admit when I got mine working it was good.
  
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NoDo$h
 


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I'm just waiting for the thread when somebody asks if you can replace the TDV6 with a 300Tdi......
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.  
Post #194053728th Apr 2018 9:52 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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lynalldiscovery wrote:
I still reckon the way a D2 can corner pretty much flat with its tyres howling is damned impressive, whereas the D3 is a barge Mr. Green


I reckon my D3 (and Defender for that matter) can outhandle a D2...
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Post #194054028th Apr 2018 9:52 pm
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RRSTDV8
 


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And my RRS fitted with Dynamic Response (the modern name for ACE) can outhandle all of them... Whistle

Rolling with laughter
 Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!" 
 
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Pete K
 


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The equivalent year RRS has it.
  
Post #194060729th Apr 2018 9:39 am
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Pelyma
  


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England 

NoDo$h wrote:
I'm just waiting for the thread when somebody asks if you can replace the TDV6 with a 300Tdi......


And live axles .....
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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rrhool
 


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United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

NoDo$h wrote:
I'm just waiting for the thread when somebody asks if you can replace the TDV6 with a 300Tdi......


Can you??? Whistle

I used to have a D2 V8 SE with ACE. I thought it was good, unless you changed direction too quickly, then it could't keep up. Driving round a very big roundabout, the ACE would load up against the tilt, until you turn quickly to exit the roundabout, the ARB would be loaded in the wrong direction. Made for some interesting handling characteristics!

Still, I did enjoy the D2
 Richard


D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.



Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone 
 
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Pete K wrote:
The equivalent year RRS has it.


Not fitted to all models though...
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Post #194062129th Apr 2018 10:41 am
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DG
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I had ACE on my D2 ....it stopped it from handling like a boat, but the ride in the D3 was a breath of fresh air by comparison tbh
  
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Gareth
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Me too. At the time I thought it was great, but once in a D3 it was a revelation.
  
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