John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Hello,
Had a really annoying problem for a while now. Basically it's a slight movement in the seat occasionally when stopping/starting. Usually solved temporarily by altering the seat position. Dealer tightened all the relevant nuts, but the problem didn't go away.
I'm pretty sure it's the mechanical seat motors moving a notch on their cogs - or something like that?
Anyway - don't know why I did it, but I turned off the lazy seat option, and the problem appears (well at least for the last 24hrs) to have been solved. Heavy braking/accelerating doesn't seem to move the seat?!?!?
Is there any mileage in my theory? By enabling lazy seats - does that somehow do something that could cause the seats to move under cornering - perhaps they're not fully locked off or something, or just held in position by a maintaining a current to the motor?
Annoying to have lost lazy seats, but it keeps the problem at bay until the next visit to the dealer.
John 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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DarrenG
Member Since: 31 Jan 2007
Location: Hampshire
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John, what are 'lazy seats'? Darren Griffin
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| 4th Dec 2007 1:50 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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You can enable it on the system menu (press the 'i' button when the car's not moving to enter the settings).
Lazy seats enables different remotes (I have two) to remember mirror and seat positions when you unlock the car. Looks very smart when the seat moves when you unlock it!
I *think* the new HSEs also move the steering wheel (or is that the Range Rover).... ?
John 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 4th Dec 2007 1:52 pm |
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stumpy
Member Since: 18 Apr 2007
Location: Stoke on Trent
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I too have the same problem.  I'm going to try switching off the lazy seat mode to see if that works.
or it might be a trip to the dealer.
on a similar note I'm having an issue with the wing mirrors not returning to their presets when changing from reverse to drive. Does anyone know if this is a fault with a module or software? 110 XS Utility
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:07 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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I get this problem too - they return - but not all the way. I wonder if this a seat ECU/module - if there is such a thing - issue? 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:09 pm |
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AndrewS
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There was an issue with the earlier D3's and the seat bases were replaced under warranty. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:11 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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...problem is, I'm a big bloke, (not fat you understand  , 6'3" and best part of 16/17 stone. The problem with the seats isn't there for my wife who's (thankfully) considerably more dainty. I'm just not sure they've anyone at the dealer's who's heavy enough to replicate the problem - so they can't spot it on a test drive.
John 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:11 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Thanks Andrew - will do a search for that. BTW - how come hitting that orange beach ball in your profile photo has caused so much damage?  2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:13 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
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John C wrote:I get this problem too - they return - but not all the way. I wonder if this a seat ECU/module - if there is such a thing - issue?
there is a TSB regarding this which requires the seat memory module to be replaced and also does cause some seat drift.
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:22 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Ahhhh - thanks - that could be it! 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:25 pm |
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DG
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10forcash wrote:Yep, there's a fix - new seat base
TSB LA501-015 Refers
one tip though, the new seat base will have a new seat memory module - check that it stores the reverse mirror dip correctly, if it doesn't get them to change it for your old one (which will also have your seat positions still in it)
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| 4th Dec 2007 2:52 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
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Excellent - thanks for that. After my drive home tonight - can confirm that turning off lazy seats definitely stops my seat moving. 8) /  2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 4th Dec 2007 10:39 pm |
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sijui
Member Since: 03 Mar 2006
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I have had similar driver's seat back drift with my 06 HSE for some time now.
Every 2-3 days I will notice the back of the driver's seat is not quite right and when the memory button is pressed the seat back moves to the correct memorised position; always back and usually about 5mm. It can happen overnight and when the car has not been locked. It is as if a rogue power surge occurs randomly that moves the back of the seat forward
I have had the seat ecu replaced twice and made sure with the dealer that the lazy seat entry set up has been correctly done. It remains an issue and despite EPQR to LR who keep on saying "have you set up the lazy entry properly"  there is no commitment to sort it.
I suppose I can turn lazy entry off and see if that fixes it - may be try a third ecu 
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DiscoDuck
Member Since: 23 Jan 2005
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I have also got he same problem as above! D4 HSE
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| 5th Dec 2007 9:56 am |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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If turning off is a temporary fix that works for you - you'll be amazed at the difference. I didn't realise how much I mentally anticipated the slight movement when coming to a stop at roundabouts/junctions etc. It's great now - am going to mention it next time it's in the dealers but for the time being I can live with the fix. 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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