Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73066
Reliability, what is this reliability you speak of?
This will be my last LR, way too much hassle, just got to keep her going for a few years more.
30th Jun 2015 9:39 am
noizeman
Member Since: 14 Oct 2006
Location: Wirral
Posts: 133
I had all the same symptoms though without the benefit of fault code diagnosis. The shutdown only occurred when towing at first then got worse and would happen when accelerating hard e.g overtaking. Then would happen doing 70 on motorways. Many trips to local garage failed to diagnose over several frustrating months.
Eventually had a complete failure and the rolling start no longer worked.
Taken by breakdown truck to main dealer who said it was fuel starvation and replaced the hp and LP fuel pumps (£2500).
Problem solved and still runs well some 100,000 miles later!
I hope this helps as like you I was ready to scrap the or drive it into a wall. I've found the lurv again and it really is one of the best, if not THE best vehicles out there.
3rd Jul 2015 10:39 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14367
On the flip side, my sister traded in her Landcruiser for a Discovery becuase she couldn't rely on the Landcruiser: It spent more time being repared and washed by the local dealer than doing what it was designed to do.
My old old bus has 177k on the clock and its is the most riduculously reliable car I have ever had. As with everything - sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
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3rd Jul 2015 11:00 pm
Narpy
Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Stockport
Posts: 7830
For what it's worth, I think you need to keep on top of a D3.................constantly!!
You need to throw money at any vehicle from time to time. They all need tyres, fuel, brakes, servicing blah blah blah but a D3 needs tender care. If something starts squeeking, fix it, or it'll fail and let you down. If you think a certain component is failing or not working as it should, fix it, or it'll come back to bite you!!
They are a long term project, there's no doubt about that and I don't know of any other car where it's highly advisable if not essential, to have you own OBD diagnositc kit so you can read your own fault codes.
You can buy a lemon from any vehicle manufacturer but as the D3 gets older and the warranty expires, a few car park dings appear, the black plastic starts to fade etc. etc. you have to work ( and spend ) just that little bit harder than you probably would have to with another vehicle to keep the perma grin going. For sure you'll question if sometimes it's worth the hassle but I've found once you get on top of your D3, the bad is far outweighed by the seriously good. Mods:
Front Fogs + Halos
FBH Remote Control
The 1st Ever RRS Modded Grill
Garmin Nuvi + D4 Surround + Reversing Camera.
D4 Steering Wheel.
Rear Boot Spoiler.
Twin Brake Lights.
Wing Mirror Indicator Repeaters.
Long Roof Rails
Make your own Narpy grill thread
I'm not scared, I'm outta here.
4th Jul 2015 12:03 am
MGCarr
Member Since: 15 Jul 2014
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 703
Couldn't agree more Narpy, they need and deserve lots of TLC and they will repay you with excellent service but neglect them at your peril. When are you going to make Alan a Narpy grill now that he has caught the D3 improvement bug? - Window tints, new side steps, one of your grilles has to be the next stage.
1997 Defender 90 for the kids and I to have a go at some competitive off road RTV and Tyro trials, daughter picked up her first trophy over the August Bank Holiday.
Previous Land Rover history
1996 P38 4.6 V8 Autobiography
1996 Discovery TDi 300
1972 Range Rover 3.5 V8
LWB Hard Top Series 3
LWB Truck Cab Series 2A
Not been without a Land Rover for over 40 years - I must need therapy!
4th Jul 2015 12:19 am
Landie71
Member Since: 23 Oct 2012
Location: Worksop, Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1019
I had the same symptoms with my D3 - to help my local indie diagnose it we went out for a run with the tintent on the back (24ft twin axle) so he could watch the live data as I made it go into limp mode.
I was convinced my D3 was made when Microsoft owned Land Rover as switching it off & back on again cleared the fault Next hill it would go again though.
We fixed it with a new turbo (done with body on so wasn't that traumatic cost wise) & while in there they put an Alisport intercooler in - it's made a huge difference. I pulls the tiptop so well now & without it it's positively now & I never worry about pulling out into traffic.
I've also had a Terraclean equivalent done & that's made it feel smoother too - It'd not fix this sort of issue, but made a difference too. Think it was called Forton & it's cheaper then Terraclean but does the same.
Yes it's not a cheap fix, but the change in the D3 is amazing & the perm-a-grin is most definitely back.
Hope you get it sorted.
4th Jul 2015 6:18 am
Dickbrowne
Member Since: 23 Apr 2014
Location: Newport Pagnell
Posts: 144
My last two cars had similar problems. The first was a split intercollegiate pipe and limp mode was accompanied by lots of black smoke, the second was file starvation (and seems most like your issue). The solution wasn't £1500 worth of fuel pump as the main dealer insisted, but a £75 fuel filter fitted by a local Indy.
The cars in question were a Saab 9-5 and an E class Merc, so it can happy to anything
4th Jul 2015 6:48 am
Kingmav66
Member Since: 20 Jul 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 1349
I've also had issues with after market fuel filters, Bearmach to be exact. Fitted LR one, problem sorted
Interesting you should say that; my last filter was a Bearmach and I got an ESF when it was fitted. Since then, it's been replaced - this time it was a Mahle that came in Steve @ Advanced's box of goodies (and before that it was Wix) - I replace it at every service (10k ~6 months).
I was thinking it's probably the LP pump (haven't bothered to investigate yet since it hasn't returned) but maybe it could have been related to the filter? Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped
Several Discovery 300 TDis
4th Jul 2015 9:25 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20835
For the minimal extra cost, I always use OEM filters. That way, you are assured of the quality. Not that AF's stuff is anything less mind My D3 Build Thread
I have noticed, as I had at the time, that my LP pump was whirring a little. TBH, I still suspect it's a case of a weak pump but perhaps in combination with the filter. Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped
Several Discovery 300 TDis
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or drive it into a wall. I've found the lurv again and it really is one of the best, if not THE best vehicles out there.
Next hill it would go again though.
Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
