With my present problems http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic14834.html I thought I should re-read this thread. Amusing that LR have moved towards a position of "get your car serviced every time you drive through a puddle" rather than fixing the problem. Ask any LRA guy their most common D3 problem and it's the EPB. I WILL get LR to acknowledge the ballsed up on this.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
26th Sep 2007 8:08 pm
Adiver
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Rutland
Posts: 495
I had mine in for some warranty work - including the EPB. They changed the shoes and a clip that was not of the modified variety - whatever that means!
No charge, done under warranty
Jon
26th Sep 2007 8:31 pm
MrAnders
Member Since: 19 Aug 2007
Location: Oslo
Posts: 52
I would hope for some assistance from one of the many upgraders that have kept LR running since 1949... Fix this, and sell an upgrade. There is a million £ market up for grabs.-05 TDV6 HSE dc5r
I'm in the dealer next week to have mine sorted and will be talking to the service manager about getting my hands on any worn parts that aren't sent back for warranty sign-off. X-Engineering (makers of the X-Brake for the Defender, RR Classic and Defender) are keen to reverse-engineer an aftermarket replacement.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
16th Oct 2007 9:25 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
But why the F should we pay for an 'upgrade' to what should be a simple system to stop the D3 rolling away once its locked up and stationary
Agreed. The dealer has told me they have been given a revised setup procedure for the brake, so we'll see what happens. If anyone is going to break it again, it will be me with my 12" of water to cross I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
16th Oct 2007 9:37 pm
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Did anyone ever get hold of this revised procedure for this? How different is it from the one TFC posted earlier in this thread?Bodsys Brake Bible
Calibration is now done electronically, so no longer a DIY option. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
14th Nov 2007 6:55 pm
Disco3kid
Member Since: 22 Mar 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 8
Ken wrote:
But hold on a mo how big a problem is it as I guess the majority of people who take their D3 off road use this site from time to time, I guess around 40 as thats how many people have signed up for Rockingham (more like 100), bet LR have had a few more issues than that so is it related to off road use only
Hi Ken,
I have the same problem with my EPD now and I have never used my disco3 off road?
Looks like I will be taking a trip down to my local LR dealer "Again"
Dont know what else to do & now being out of warranty! Should be interesting
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22nd Mar 2009 1:27 pm
Disco3kid
Member Since: 22 Mar 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 8
for some reason, the PB shoes lose their adjustment, causing the cable travel required to impose maximum required force ( monitored by 7) to extend. Once the maximum travel on the cable threaded connector (5) is reached, the spline shaft (6) will cease rotating causing a clutch assembly (I think) in the gearbox to release the rotational force from the motor - hence the 'screamer'...
What I do need to do is take the rear shoe assembly apart to find out why the adjustment is being lost and how to prevent it, I suspect it's linked to reversing (from the number of warnings about drum rotation in the adjustment procedure) Andrew - are your photo's prior to cleaning the shoes and how much (if any) was there in the inside of the drum / disc itself?
Hi
I'm having the same problem with mine now, and doing my best to get the information to solve the problem myself
Trying to avoid going to LR main dealer if poss, because we know what there like
How did you get on?
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Rgds, Neil
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22nd Mar 2009 1:36 pm
Disco3kid
Member Since: 22 Mar 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 8
NoDo$h wrote:
Does anyone have an email address for a suitably senior person at Land Rover? I'd like to send them a link to this thread.
Hi
Your right, It should be made a Product Recall by LR
Neil.
22nd Mar 2009 1:42 pm
Barry C-All
Member Since: 13 Nov 2008
Location: Essex
Posts: 169
Have I just discovered another unwritten feature of the Discovery (perhaps that's why they call it the Discovery!)?
I know on manual Disco3s when the ignition key is removed the EPB is applied automatically, but I last night discovered, having driven the vehicle for nearly a year, that on the automatics, when the EPB is applied, as soon as the accelerator is touched to pull away, the EPB is automatically released and the light goes out. Has anyone else found this feature? It raises my view of the EPB from being a pain to quite a useful feature, now that I know it is quick to release.
Just for the record, 2.7 HSE Auto, 10,000 miles, not the slightest problem at all with anything. Excellent vehicle but I do not take it in the mud!
27th Mar 2009 6:41 pm
caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
Barry C-All wrote:
Have I just discovered another unwritten feature of the Discovery (perhaps that's why they call it the Discovery!)?
having driven the vehicle for nearly a year,
Should have been part of the hand over from the dealer. A good selling point for the D3.“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
28th Mar 2009 12:16 am
Disco3kid
Member Since: 22 Mar 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 8
Information Regarding the Sreeching EPB
My brother is a fitter with his own workshop, had the car up on the ramps now for 2 days Completely removed all the Disc brakes, callipers & the EPD unit which we stripped down, the unit is so well sealed I think you would have great difficulty in getting water or mud directly into the unit itself, the unit was completely dry as a bone No water or mud, Re-greased the unit up again which didn’t really need it but thought we might as well do it at the same time.
New Brake pads were fitted only 3 months prior to this happening, so they were fine, the problem we found was the Discs were worn slightly, Fitted new discs for £80, No more Screeching! Thank god.
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Discokid
28th Mar 2009 4:04 pm
caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
Barry, just noticed it was yor first post. Welcome.
I also love the EPB function, really cool. Never had a problem with mine.
disco3 kid. Problem with the muddy water ingress is not the EPB unit but the EPB brake units. mud gets between the shoes and drum when it is off, dries and when the brake is put on will not move fully and puts the system out f adjustment.
That is my understanding, ready to be corrected though. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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