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31st Aug 2007 8:59 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Mud has nothing to do with it... does cause a problem but the system goes out of adjustment on its own anyway. Especially if you park on a slope regularly. The very helpful LRA chap you tended to mine in France recently said the auto adjustment doesn't really work. His most common call out is EPB related issues.
31st Aug 2007 9:00 pm
craig
Member Since: 08 Aug 2006
Location: Home of LR.
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Hey, hey my previous post on this subject was my 1000th
Celebration time
31st Aug 2007 9:01 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Calls for a smiley!
31st Aug 2007 9:02 pm
simon
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Location: Shropshire
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Well done rouge !
31st Aug 2007 9:07 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Worked a treat Lewis!
31st Aug 2007 9:14 pm
neo
Member Since: 16 Nov 2005
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Mine needed fettling a little while ago, but has been fine since....
Apparently, if you do heavy off-road useage it needs servicing something like every 15 mile or so.......I kid you not.
I was chatting to a Land Rover prototyping engineer last week at Eastnor about this and some of the other 'design faults' of D3.
By far the biggest/worst of them is that naff shaguar EPB system carry-over........The M-Power Express
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31st Aug 2007 9:19 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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what did he think were the other deliberate mistakes???
31st Aug 2007 9:20 pm
Lewis
Member Since: 27 Aug 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 51
Hi,
Thanks for the information I will upload more at a later date once Iv'e found them somewhere on my computer.
Member Since: 23 Feb 2007
Location: Dubai
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TFC our 2006 FFRR TD6 has a manual handbrake not an EPB. So i presume that have they just introduced it in the TDV8's along with Terrain Response. So they are copying the D3 8)1993 Defender 110 300tdi - many mods
31st Aug 2007 9:23 pm
neo
Member Since: 16 Nov 2005
Location: embedded in the Matrix
Posts: 1192
Copying.......no
Standard shaguar issue stuff.
BMW had enough brains to figure out that a 4x4 that would get muddy, and yes even RR's do get muddy would be better served with a real h/brake.
It is not so much the concept of EPB, although for something like a Disco I think it is not a good design, it is the way that have implemented a car system that is not really designed or modified to cope with off-road usage/ingress/stresses.The M-Power Express
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31st Aug 2007 9:27 pm
neo
Member Since: 16 Nov 2005
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DSL,
No other deliberate mistakes.......I didn't take the opportunity to bombard him with questions as it would not have been polite, he was there to learn/drive and not be interrogated - and he had been forewarned about me.
I am well known at LRE Malverns (Eastnor), but in a nice way
We did have some very interesting discussions about FL2 and D3 and some other stuff, he is a LR man through and through, been working for them 20+ years and still loves it. We shared the same view on working for very large american corporations.
And Roger Craythorn was there as well on the Wednesday - driving some press people around in an SC FFRR.The M-Power Express
No question, the EPB is a disaster. Mine has failed to the point of requiring dealer attention 3 times in 15000 miles and has failed to the point of needing manual release perhaps half a dozen other times.
My LRA guy cleans, adjusts and resets the EPB on his D3 about once a month. Says it all.
With the first D3s coing up for MOTs, Land Rover have GOT to fix this. If they haven't come up with a solution by the time mine is due its first MOT I'll be getting the MOT done at the local LR dealer and daring them to fail it for the handbrake. Could be interesting.... loyalty to LR or to the DoT I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
31st Aug 2007 9:39 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Well, I have owned many vehicles during my tenure on this little planet, and none have ever required the hand brake be fixed, adjusted nor cleaned out - apart form regular service interval checking.
I will be mightily peeved of I decide to keep my D3 beyond three years and have to pay for it to be adjusted due to failure outside of the 15K miles service schedule.
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