adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
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Went to shops yesterday with Mrs and daughter – I drove – on way back stopped off at the local – lad then rang up to be picked up from bowling a few miles away - stopped at pub, engine running, I got out, Mrs, drove off – 30 mins later – get the call ‘have you got the keys’ - yes – in my pocket – car about 4 miles away! - Whatever you do – don’t turn the ignition off!!!
Thought that it would have stopped after not noting key for that long
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 10th Jul 2011 11:11 am |
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dtest
Member Since: 02 Jan 2011
Location: Weybridge
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It is designed like that....unfortunately if a thief drove in your car and it decided to 'cut out' (because the key was absent) and caused an accident then LR would be liable for the resulting carnage..... 
The lack of ignition barrel is merely a 'lazy ignition' option rather than a security feature!!! 
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| 10th Jul 2011 4:19 pm |
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MikeS2005
Member Since: 13 Sep 2008
Location: Midlothian
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Hi
Im sure that isnt right the car is supposed to cut out when it senses that the key isnt there should be no more than say between 10 to 20 feet before it cuts out, this is what happens with other keyless entry vehicles
I would get this checked maybe some other D4 owners could try this and report back
cheers
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| 10th Jul 2011 8:01 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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Mine will go forever as long as you don't turn it off?
I only wish there was a button on the key to remotely turn it off 
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| 10th Jul 2011 11:01 pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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comes up on the dash with a warning gong ?
The Jag system (much the same) with keyless start & stop
has a very large warning come up if you do this BREXIT - done properly.
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Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
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Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 11th Jul 2011 12:11 am |
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GraemeS
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
Location: NSW
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crews control wrote:I only wish there was a button on the key to remotely turn it off
Now that could be useful. Home of LLAMS, for LRs and Jeep GCs
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| 11th Jul 2011 4:08 am |
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dtest
Member Since: 02 Jan 2011
Location: Weybridge
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MikeS2005 wrote:Hi
Im sure that isnt right the car is supposed to cut out when it senses that the key isnt there should be no more than say between 10 to 20 feet before it cuts out, this is what happens with other keyless entry vehicles
I would get this checked maybe some other D4 owners could try this and report back
cheers
My mates RR Sport does the same.....we tried it last night.....he drove to the shops and back (about 3 miles) without the key.
As I said before it MUST be a 'lazy ignition' feature and not a security feature
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| 11th Jul 2011 7:56 am |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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dtest wrote:....................My mates RR Sport does the same.....we tried it last night.....he drove to the shops and back (about 3 miles) without the key
Does the RRS have a central dash (between speedo & rev counter) display of alarms ?
Does the D4 have the same ?
most recent Jags have this & it displays alarms in multi colours LARGE....my XK also puts a small version of the sat nav instructio9ns there so you can turn main screen off & get data when you need iit where you can see it.
The system works very well as you can turn off the main sat nav screen at night & just run from the dashboard display.....standard feature BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 11th Jul 2011 8:27 am |
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WhiskyDisco
Member Since: 17 Jan 2011
Location: Solihull
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Ah...you are assuming thata woman driver would notice a large warning triangle and a series of constant bongs...I doubt my wife would notice if the tailgate was still open. Previous cars
1988 Austin Metro 1.0
1996 Mazda MX5 1.6
1990 Toyota Celica 2.0
2001 Volkswagen Passat 1.9
2004 Lexus RX300 3.0
2005 Disco3 4.4 V8 (300bhp)
2006 Mercedes CLK350 Convertible
2010 Ford S-Max 2.0 Titanium X (240bhp)
2009 Disco3 2.7 TDi
2016 VW Caravelle Generation Six (204bhp)
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| 11th Jul 2011 9:38 am |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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a colleague of mine had an early D4 and it cut out when the vehicle came to a stop. same happended to his wife, she swapped as drivers and drove off. the car cut out when she stopped at the roundabout..
ive never tried it on mine though.
i have however tried pressing the start/button whilst on the motorway  Duncan
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| 11th Jul 2011 9:43 am |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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WhiskyDisco wrote:I doubt my wife would notice if the tailgate was still open.
You're lucky... mine wouldn't notice if the bonnet was open! 
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| 11th Jul 2011 10:24 am |
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Popelka
Member Since: 31 May 2008
Location: Praha (Prague)
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DiscoDunc wrote:i have however tried pressing the start/button whilst on the motorway
and what happens ??
(OT)
I get lucky then; as the only thing SWMBO miss seeing is only the 100,000 cobweb effects an automatic car wash gives black paint (Every time ) 
only takes 5-8hrs of proper clean/polish/sealant/ wax to get something looking acceptable (just) Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!
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| 11th Jul 2011 11:42 am |
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GlosBoy
Member Since: 16 Oct 2009
Location: Chandlers Ford
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Mine didnt notice the bonnet open - on one side only . She drove to the shop a couple of miles away, slowly.
When she came back I noticed the bonnet wasnt lined up properly, pushed it back.
Went in and asked if she noticed anything - not really, apart from some stupid light flashing at me. I give up D4 HSE - Aintree Green
D4 Orkney my13 - gone
Stornaway D4. Gone, Didn't like it at all
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| 11th Jul 2011 4:19 pm |
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harryjamesinleinster
Member Since: 05 Jul 2011
Location: Near Dublin, Ireland
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Mine (2010 MY with all software updates installed) won't release handbrake if key is not within vehicle....
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| 11th Jul 2011 10:29 pm |
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GraemeS
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
Location: NSW
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Popelka wrote:DiscoDunc wrote:i have however tried pressing the start/button whilst on the motorway
and what happens ??
It stops the engine - I've done it.
The engine will stop if the button is held for a couple of seconds, but perhaps only if the gearshift is in neutral. Its the LR documented procedure for to restart to overcome the 'reduced performance' condition without having to stop. Home of LLAMS, for LRs and Jeep GCs
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| 11th Jul 2011 10:40 pm |
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