Russell
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Sometime ago someone posted that there was a TSB about the removable tow bar and issues with the spring associated with the green knob not being strong enough. The TSB refrenced this and from memory chassis numbers, can anyone remeber which TSB it was or can anyone find the thread please.
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 5th Mar 2013 10:35 am |
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B16 KJR
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I cant remember there being a TSB, but there is a lot of issues with the removable bar developing too much play in it. TLO informed us that the removable towbar is now labeled only for "occasional light towing" or words to that effect.
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| 5th Mar 2013 11:34 am |
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When I use mine its for the full monty.....
If LR have downgraded the removable TB......surely they should have done a recall ?
How does this leave the user if the TB fails its not my fault it gets to a stage its not fit for purpose...it has to down to design / manufacturing or materials & the owner isnt involved in any of these....only the use.
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| 5th Mar 2013 4:54 pm |
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DG
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What the official advice says is this  :
LSB 10 02 99 122 - OWNER’S HANDBOOK SUPPLEMENT 2013 wrote:
QUICK RELEASE TOW BALL FOR
RANGE ROVER SPORT, DISCOVERY
3 AND DISCOVERY 4
Applicability
This information is applicable to all model
years for the following vehicles:
• Range Rover Sport - All models.
• Discovery 3 - All models.
• Discovery 4 - All models.
1. Vehicle mounted receiver.
2. Quick release tow ball.
The tow ball unit locks into the vehicle
mounting when required for towing.
This quick release tow ball should be used only
for nose loads up to a maximum of 150Kg
(330lb).
ESSENTIAL TOWING CHECKS
• DO NOT exceed the revised nose weight
limit of 150kg (330lb).
• When the quick release tow ball is not
required for immediate use, it should be
removed and stowed in the appropriate
place.
HEAVY DUTY MULTI-HEIGHT TOW
BAR SYSTEM
If there is a requirement for towing with a
greater nose weight, for example, commercial
or constant use towing, Land Rover
Accessories have available a suitable tow bar
system.
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:12 pm |
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B16 KJR
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Thats not what TLO told us about. He mentioned that on the boxes of new towbars, the removable one was now only labelled for "occasional light towing" or words to that effect.
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:23 pm |
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DG
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Well I don't want to tread on toes ..but the advice above was taken from TOPIx today and features as a supplement in the handbook Aside from the doc you have linked to there are no other docs that I can find on there. Maybe Nick can clarify.  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:27 pm |
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B16 KJR
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Found it, posted by Nick on the 12th September 2012.
Towbar description
Never noticed this before..
Tow Bars LR041041 Heavy Duty Multi-Height Drop Plate Tow Bar This kit contains a towing armature and slider plate. This heavy duty tow bar is intended for commercial and constant use.
<P>50mm Tow Ball. Three different towing heights. Lowest tow ball height 350mm from ground. Highest tow ball height 500mm fromn ground. 3,500kg trailer load capacity (150kg trailer nose load).</P> Requires Fitting Kit LR007485. Note: This tow bar is not compatible with the Body Styling Pack 2008-2009 Model Year vehicles.
Tow Bars
LR040247 Quick Release Tow Bar Lockable for security. Easily removed. Intended for leisure use only. 50mm Tow Ball, height 400mm from ground. 3,500kg trailer load capacity (150kg trailer nose load). A Tracking Target Sticker is required for vehicles fitted with Trailer Assist option only. Please contact your Land Rover Dealer for further information.
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:29 pm |
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The Large One
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B16 KJR wrote:Thats not what TLO told us about. He mentioned that on the boxes of new towbars, the removable one was now only labelled for "occasional light towing" or words to that effect.
there was an announcement on one of our internal bulletin boards, not a TSB but a general notifiacation on the same lines as DG posted which i copy pasted on here sometime ago
the quick release towbar is now classed as occasional towing as per nose weights for people who tow continual etc then best get the multi height TLO has left the building.......
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:31 pm |
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DG
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Yes agreed B16 but that's not the same as "occasional light towing" which suggests that the weight of the trailer is a factor. Leisure use in my eyes means towing a caravan and or trailers say a dozen times per year. The fact is that the removable bar is still certified for the maximum weights permitted.
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:33 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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ive never had problems with my removeable towbar and towed twin axle caravan thousands of miles.
and i'll continue to use the removable towbar to tow the caravan with the D4 Duncan
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:36 pm |
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B16 KJR
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Nick has just said it is now classed as occasional light towing. 
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:37 pm |
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DG
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No he didn't ...he said "occasional towing" ...you inserted the "light" word   21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:38 pm |
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B16 KJR
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The Large One wrote:B16 KJR wrote:Thats not what TLO told us about. He mentioned that on the boxes of new towbars, the removable one was now only labelled for "occasional light towing" or words to that effect.
there was an announcement on one of our internal bulletin boards, not a TSB but a general notifiacation on the same lines as DG posted which i copy pasted on here sometime ago
the quick release towbar is now classed as occasional towing as per nose weights for people who tow continual etc then best get the multi height
Think you will find Nick has used the word "occasional" 2 lines up.
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:40 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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but there is no mention of "LIGHT" towing ! , and upto 150kg nose weight.
over 150Kg and it recommends the multi height tow bar Duncan
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| 5th Mar 2013 5:41 pm |
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