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GK
 


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When you said the bottom torx bolts could be tight, I didn't know you meant that tight!
I've had a 2 foot breaker bar on them and it just twists the splines on my torx bit.
Any ideas?
  
Post #131135115th Jul 2014 10:17 am
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Ihad same problem, just did what mikey says, wiggle back and forth plenty of spray, one came out the other snapped head off, drilled it out in the end metal was very soft to be honest,another quality LR fitting.
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Thanks for the write up, I've got a condenser on order and the rear tubing has been blocked off. Hopefully soon I'll have a cold maker again.
  
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Is it possible to fill the system with air to try and find a leak? What pressure would be needed?

I have an air compressor and was wondering whether its possible to use that?

I had the system refilled at a garage, but was empty again after a day or so Sad

Thanks

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Ade, I think that would only work for a fairly large leak, where you can hear the air coming out. That's what an air con chap did with mine, and charged me £40. For small leaks they put a dye in and look for it with a UV lamp.
  
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Did my condenser a couple of days back, alternator failed so and felt it would be better to kill 2 birds with one stone, but for some reason only found your guide today.

Anyway, used a guide posted by one of the other forum members which was very useful but a bit fiddly. Your guide looks like I may have been left with more skin on your knuckles but its done now.

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Ade wrote:
Is it possible to fill the system with air to try and find a leak? What pressure would be needed?

I have an air compressor and was wondering whether its possible to use that?

I had the system refilled at a garage, but was empty again after a day or so Sad

Thanks

Ade


I believe they use nitrogen and a dye now, to find any pinhole (and bigger) leaks
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Ade, I would take it back to the garage.

A fully automatic machine will not fill a system that will not hold vacuum, so I would suspect they are just using a fill method which should be frowned upon as the R134a refrigerant is a green house gas.

Alternative pressure testing, as Mikey says, is with OFN - Oxygen Free Nitrogen, I would tend to look for someone who has invested in this extra bit of kit as they are taking it seriously rather than just making a quick buck from recharging.
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Agree with steve, when i did my condensor took it to an air con place hooked up to a machine first it did a vacuum of the system to confirm no leaks for a set time, only then would the machine allow a fill. as ive said before many thanks to disco mikey for his write up, the job was not too hard to do,btw recharge was only £30 which i thought very fair considering the time of year
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I've got a mobile AC specialist coming out today to have a look at, so hoping he can give me a guide as to whats wrong.

Is it a fairly easy system to diagnose the problem?
  
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Does anyone know the part number of a condenser Big Cry
  
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Thanks Martin Thumbs Up

Looking at the microcat there seems to be a seal on the condenser (part number DHE500110). Is this reusable from the old on being removed, or do you nee dot fit a new one?
  
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there is just 2 small o rings on condenser pipe,different sizes real cheap so might as well replace
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WooooooHoooooooo

Got mine done with this guide! Legend. Moving that front panel over them location pins was nervy, but did it.

Only took 2 hours(ish) and a good chunk of that was looking for tool, picking the child up after falling off his bike and enjoying a drink/chat while working.

Also replaced the two o-rings...... Deffo needed as the pipe fitting were sloppy with old ones and not with the new


  
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