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Miesmacher
 


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Can I avoid clearing D4 aux battery tray?

Hi,

preparing for my D4, due sometime in June, I started thinking about the dual battery thingy. Right now, my D3 has the standard Traxide system installed, with the aux battery in the spare battery tray.

This seems not possible for my D4. I have seen and understood the how-tos to clean the aux battery tray, but I think the task is above me - especially as the car is leased and I want to avoid fiddling too much.

My ingenious alternative plan now is as follows:

- I want to install the aux battery and the Traxide SC-80 on a board behind/below the back seats (I am getting a 5-seater). I got this idea here: <http>, but my version won't have a compressor and won't look as nice.

- To do this, I'd have to run a long cable from the starter battery to the Traxide SC-80. Such a cable will need to be thin enough to fit through that grommet behind the aux battery tray, but thick enough to transport enough electricity. Is there a sweet spot ( wire-gauge-wise) anyone can recommend?

- Further, I will need reliable Negatives somewhere behind the seats - can I just use the seat's screw holes? (I should mention that I plan to take out the middle rear seat and tie down the fridge there instead.)


Sorry if I again pose questions which are more silly than not, but I am slowly finding myself into this and I am by no means skilled. So better to ask twice than burn once...

Thanks and cheers,
Thorsten
  
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I think Wiggs has done this but sure he will be along soon?
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Well I can't even think to approach the perfection of wiggs' stuff - but then, did he really put an aux battery under the backseats?
  
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Could be wrong I'm sure that's what he said anyway give him a pm or as I say I'm sure he will be along at some point.
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No think Wiggs put it in one of the rear cubby holes where it goes into the rear wing, accessed from the boot area.
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Russell wrote:
No think Wiggs put it in one of the rear cubby holes where it goes into the rear wing, accessed from the boot area.

which is the right place for a battery...nice & cool...protected from the elements
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Mr. H has used what was the 2nd battery box in the D3 ...in a D4 ...he had to persuade it but it fitted Thumbs Up
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The wiring that comes with the traxide kit is AWG 6 and the + and - cables together JUST fit through the small grommet behind and below the aux battery tray which I was forced to use (manual transmission D3 here so couldn't go through the clutch grommet).

Not sure which grommets are present on a D4 but in any case, AWG 6 cable is what you need.
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I fitted an aux with traxide to a D4 in the battery box. Yes you have to remove the crappy alarm sounder and then use that bracket for the gearbox ECU that now clogs up the aux battery box.
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@ Russell: Well, not sure where that "rear cubby hole" is, but this sounds like cutting plastic. I'd rather not do that. (Actually I think that wiggs has the auxiliary sockets back there, but not the battery itself.)

@ DG: Bits of broken plastic litter my way. Not sure whether this is the way to go. (but see below)

@ nighthawk: The reason why I think of putting the battery behind the seats is that I'd have to run a cable anyway, but instead of doing it with a + and - cable, I thought I could simply run the + cable between battery and SC-80 only.
If 2 AWG 6 cables fit through (at 13.3sqmm each) I could probably run one standard 16sqmm cable easily.

@ Bodsy: I'll think of leaving the battery in front. But the other solution seems elegant, too.

Does anyone have a word on getting a good earth connection behind the rear seats?


Thanks and cheerio,
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Sure one 16sqmm will pass. However logic tells me you will not gain anything from it though as this is the cable between batteries and it's protected by traxide's circuit breakers so you will still only get a max 50 amps through it. If I were you I'd pass just one AWG 6 cable.

As for the rear cubby hole, it is the removeable panels on each side of the boot. Behind one of them there are the towing electrics (where wiggs put his battery). I think you will be able to find an earth point somewhere in there. Wiggs might be able to tell you if there's a suitable earth point there Thumbs Up . Routing cable from behind the seats to the rear cubby hole will be very easy.
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DG wrote:
Mr. H has used what was the 2nd battery box in the D3 ...in a D4 ...he had to persuade it but it fitted Thumbs Up


Not really that much persuading required, but it is a snug fit and the only thing that was moved out is the alarm sounder which can be easily done without major changes which can be easily reversed at the time the vehicle gets sold. Have a look in my gallery here: http://www.disco4.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=21817
  
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Ask Traxside they can supply a kit I would think. (drivesafe on the forum)
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I think Traxide has an second battery tray for mounting in front of the main battery in the D4.
  
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