ckra1000
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Wow. Those figures from Gary are interesting ...
Original price £51,220. Forum members reporting in another forum post that they are getting approx 8% discount from dealers on a D4, so approx £4,100 off.
Price = £47,120.
Private sale value at 9 months = £46,735.
So depreciation over 9 months of ownership is a minute £385 !!
I just wish I had the capital for the initial investment ... or have I missed something? Chris
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 14th Jan 2013 6:34 pm |
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DG
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That's base price though ...without the extras  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 14th Jan 2013 6:36 pm |
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ckra1000
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Location: Sheffield
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Yes, thats true for Steve's car.
I was carefully avoiding making a comment on his car.
My comment was just based upon the figures from Gary. Chris
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| 14th Jan 2013 6:41 pm |
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steveraspberry
Member Since: 18 Sep 2011
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It's not quite that simple fella. In the advert you will notice that the list price was in fact around £59k with all the extra options that are on the car. (I just checked the original order form for this figure). So the depreciation is actually £10-12K, not £385!Also, I'm sure people are still getting discounts but it is traditionally harder to do so around this time of year as prices do firm up in the winter months. To be fair, the trade in offer from the dealer books at anythin from £41-46K for this particular spec/mileage/age of vehicle. So there is still some deficit there. In my experience, if you have the money to put into the car in the first place AND have a good relationship with the dealer, then it is possible to change the regularly and thereby protect the majority of your money. It can be a tricky balance to achieve but not impossible My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
MY15 Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian
RGK Tiga Fx Wheelchair,
Large Alsation called Abbs 
Medium blue Staffie called Piglet
Medium Alsation called Bailey
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| 14th Jan 2013 6:44 pm |
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steveraspberry
Member Since: 18 Sep 2011
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Damn! Too slow again!  My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
MY15 Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian
RGK Tiga Fx Wheelchair,
Large Alsation called Abbs
Medium blue Staffie called Piglet
Medium Alsation called Bailey
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| 14th Jan 2013 6:45 pm |
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dangerdave
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| 14th Jan 2013 7:25 pm |
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ckra1000
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No problem Steve. My comments weren't about your car, just about the book prices from Gary.
Personally, I think your car is a bargain with all those extras !!
Best of luck with the sale. Chris
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| 14th Jan 2013 7:35 pm |
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Bo1970
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steveraspberry wrote:Thanks David, glad your missus is enjoying her new Mini - Not sure how good its going to be in the snow though 
She loves the colour of the mini and will hopefully save on fuel for doing the school run.
Had to stay on the drive today as had a fair amount of snow.
The D4 is a good price at £45,500 and would love to swap mine for it but I've already bought 2 cars this year so need to slow down 
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| 14th Jan 2013 7:38 pm |
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WhiskyDisco
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I'm interested in the motivation for changing cars every six months, at a cost to change over the 12 months of £10-12k (w/o the additional costs of selling the car). If this is a regular occurrence then this is a lot of money being spend on depreciation - after 5 years you would have spent the equivalent of a new car.
I suppose that the equivalent in cost terms would be leasing a car - but lease deals don't often come in 6 months terms.
My '05 Discovery probably loses £3k a year in depreciation, or £250 a month. I would really feel the pain at losing 4 times that much to drive (in my view, essentially the same car). 
Perhaps it's possible to avoid the servicing costs by changing so regularly...? Previous cars
1988 Austin Metro 1.0
1996 Mazda MX5 1.6
1990 Toyota Celica 2.0
2001 Volkswagen Passat 1.9
2004 Lexus RX300 3.0
2005 Disco3 4.4 V8 (300bhp)
2006 Mercedes CLK350 Convertible
2010 Ford S-Max 2.0 Titanium X (240bhp)
2009 Disco3 2.7 TDi
2016 VW Caravelle Generation Six (204bhp)
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| 15th Jan 2013 10:31 am |
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ckra1000
Member Since: 16 Aug 2010
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Apologies to Steve as we have strayed off topic here ... Steve is trying to sell his car on this post ... but we don't know what regular discount Steve can get on new cars at his dealer (that is private to him). A good initial discount may make it very financially viable for him personally.
If you take Gary's general figures for D4s, changing every 9 months makes complete sense ... see my post above. Chris
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| 15th Jan 2013 10:54 am |
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steveraspberry
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@ CKRA1000 Spot on on all counts fella I do get a very good discount from my dealer so it does make the regular change a viable proposition.
Best,
Steve My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
MY15 Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian
RGK Tiga Fx Wheelchair,
Large Alsation called Abbs
Medium blue Staffie called Piglet
Medium Alsation called Bailey
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| 15th Jan 2013 11:41 am |
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steveraspberry
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Also, WD makes a good point. This way, I do not pay for servicing or tyres and my brother usually avoids having to pay road tax at £400+ PA so these factors also help in minimising the cost to change.
Best,
Steve My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
MY15 Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian
RGK Tiga Fx Wheelchair,
Large Alsation called Abbs
Medium blue Staffie called Piglet
Medium Alsation called Bailey
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| 15th Jan 2013 11:45 am |
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Japseroony
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steveraspberry wrote: @ CKRA1000 Spot on on all counts fella I do get a very good discount from my dealer so it does make the regular change a viable proposition.
Best,
Steve
Steve, I think you are being somewhat misleading in what you have said in that it is not only "dealer discount" you are making use of or we would all be doing it "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
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| 15th Jan 2013 5:30 pm |
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steveraspberry
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Not sure what you mean Jasper My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
MY15 Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian
RGK Tiga Fx Wheelchair,
Large Alsation called Abbs
Medium blue Staffie called Piglet
Medium Alsation called Bailey
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| 15th Jan 2013 7:58 pm |
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Japseroony
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What so there is no VAT saving included Steve  "UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
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| 15th Jan 2013 8:07 pm |
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