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kalv
 


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Dead Disco 3.. no electrics, nothing.. help needed....

Afternoon all..

I blanked and removed the EGR on Saturday following the guide - nice and straight forward (being carefuly not to lift the Y housing up to far).. re-fitted all ok.. tested car round block and it was fine.

Misses went shopping yesterday and got stuck in Sainsbury car park when leaving. Car opened, but then nothing.. no lights on dash.. no power to open/lock doors from fob. I had to meet her.. brought my electrical tester and try to check voltage across battery.. few sparks later car came to life.. all lights and started. So I decided to blast it down the motorway got back home and fine.

Today misses has used it to do kids run.. go gym etc.. and now doing afternoon school run it's dead again (I'm at work).. so she is having to walk (20min) and it's raining - so im already in the bad books.

About 5-6 months had the alternator changed and a new battery fitted as the car wasn't charging.

I don't get what it could be? Any idea's? Is it some sort of short somewhere? Have I not plugged in a clip somewhere properly? I'm not getting any lights on the dash?
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Check your battery terminals are tight to start of with
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I will check but I didn't disconnect the battery when I blanked of the valves..

When I did get home and checked the voltage across the battery with car running it was showing approx 14v at idling..

Wonder if the car is able to recognise the fob as doesnt it charge it..?
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Re: Dead Disco 3.. no electrics, nothing.. help needed....

kalv wrote:
..... brought my electrical tester and try to check voltage across battery.. few sparks later car came to life....


therein lies the answer, you obviously have a bad connection in there somewhere. As Wiggs says, check the battery connections and earth points.
  
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Re: Dead Disco 3.. no electrics, nothing.. help needed....

kalv wrote:
brought my electrical tester and try to check voltage across battery.. few sparks later car came to life..


this is why i suggested battery teminals ...they can come loose
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quicker fingers Gareth ...quicker fingers Laughing
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thanks... on the way home now.. any pointers/places to check for earth..?

sorry for sounding dumb but cant do electrical only mechanical..
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were the battery is ....just in front of the battery box on right is a earth point .

also follow the neg lead on the battery ..it bolts just behind the battery .

the battery terminals are the best place to start ..grab them and see if they move . They have silly connectors ...you need to loosen then bolts and knock them downwards to make them a tighter fit
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ive disconnected all the plugs i had wen i blanked the egr... disconnected the battery.. put the electrical tester to the earth points.. connected back up.. car lights come on .. locks work.. go to start dead - like a short circuit.

opened up the fuse box in engine and none blown ...
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repeated above and started and working now.. sprayed some wd40 into the connectors.. just guna have to keep tools in boot and shoe misses what to do..??
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It's unlikely to be anything to do with the EGR work - more that it is a fault with the battery.

Have you tried a replacement ?? Have you tried a 'jump start' ??

You could have a dead cell, this would still provide enough power to operate locks etc but would not be able to support the starter motor hence your sensation of a dead short ?? When your new alternator was fitted, was it checked for charging voltage / current - need to check that it's not cooking the battery.

Sorry if I'm being dumb Confused

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i dont believe its a starting/cranking problem.. its starts first time if there is power/juice.. but there just wasnt any.. no radio.. no elecy seats.. no remote door locks.. so i still a dodgy short/connection somewhere..??
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In your first post you said there were a few sparks, where from? The area of the battery or somwhere else.
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justa few sparks on the terminals when i checked the voltage with a meter (just like when u connect the positive lead)...
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IIRC, the 05MY's had issues with the battery earth lead, and corrosion where it meets the body. Worth checking and cleaning up for peace of mind if noting else. Thumbs Up
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