D4JWW wrote:

nighthawk wrote:

I'm taking quite a liking to the IIDTool. Slight inconvenience controlling it (a bit fiddly using the cruise control buttons and the dash LCD), but the price is extremely reasonable so it makes it very worth it.

I use my IIDTOOL more than the Msv2, just because it's so convenient plug in and use cruise control buttons, very handy to adjust susp height for highway or offroad, build mode turns suspp ecu off good for long periods of parking or dealing with failing compressor. Live value espesially ergs valves is good, missing on MSv2.

Thanks, guys.

RCDtripper wrote:

thats what really swung it for me is the service reset, didn't want a seperate box to do that, easily lost too

Hi RCD,
Just in case there is any confusion: IIDTool will do a SIR- service interval reset (wasn't sure which systems you were comparing). Additional boxes are sometimes nice but not always necessary.

The IIDTool does not yet have the EPB service function. This is scheduled for release with what will be our last major FW update to complete the functionality by the end of the summer/beginning of autumn.


And a quick general explanation into diagnostic tools/systems and maybe as a guide on what to look for.

There are 4 basic functions for a diagnostic system:
- Fault (DTC- diagnostic trouble code) reading and clearing
- Live Value display
- Editing the car's configuration files (CCF)
- Initializing, calibrating, or programing new components or executing service routines/manually actuating components (testing function)

2 other major factors to be considered are:
- vehicle or manufacturer specific application / generic application (£25 OBD scanner)
- one VIN / multiple VIN

Starting with the lowest priced units, even a £25 generic code reader will read and sometimes clear the codes on anything that is emissions related (engine+drive train). They will not work on any vehicle specific systems. Vehicle specific diagnostic tools start with the BBS FCR and the Hawkey and go through the IIDTool to the BBS MSV to Autologic to the main dealer T4/IDS. There are some others out there - there is a large US LR parts retailer who sells a very basic (LR specific) fault code reader for over $1000.

You have to examine your needs and look at the costs. As Colin (BBS SPY) said, the Hawkey is not a bad piece of kit but it is very basic. It will not allow an EAS re-calibration following a height sensor change, for instance, yet offers live value viewing and component actuation for some systems - much more than just a simple fault code scanner. The BBS products are very good and the MSV offers extremely comprehensive functionality. For the IIDTool, we have worked hard at putting together a package that we feel combines the highest grade of functionality and we went with a large volume distributor to try to keep the price of individual user systems as low as possible. But the goal of a low price could only be met by offering a the IIDTool with a single vehicle license as we do have to sell a few to make ends meet (we do offer an unlimited VIN professional garage version of the IIDTool as well).

It does take a little looking into if you want to pick up the diagnostic system best suited for your needs, but then again, vehicle diagnostics and service should not be undertaken by persons not willing to look into the details either...

HTH

 
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BBS SPY wrote:

They do not also point out that you also need to buy another equally pricy lead and power supply if you want to upgrade your Hawkeye's software.

Have to correct you in part there, Bearmach upgraded my Hawkeye to V5.0 for free - I just sent them the bare unit & received it back the next day

Horses for courses I know, I have used my Hawkeye on a fair few D3's & FFRR's as I have both codes & own both types of vehicle.

For the FFRR, my unit does all petrol & diesel variants up till (I think) 09 MY

Like I said, Horses for Courses & I can't edit my CCF

piper5 wrote:

IId tool, operates from cruise control buttons but i dont have cruise control ???

Forgot to mention in my long post above - while we are working on a new option to control the IIDTool, at the moment if you do not have cruise control fitted and would like both cruise and an IIDTool you can simply purchase the tool, a switch pack (from a breaker, for instance) and use the CCF-Editing options to add the cruise control to the vehicle. Prolly costs less than it would have as an original option.

 
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therso wrote:

Interesting stuff but not exactly answering the original question.

In my long post above, I tried to give a detailed description of what to look at when comparing diagnostic tools. I could write that as of the last FW update, there is nothing that comes close to the IIDTool in terms of functionality in the price category, but you'd be silly to believe my very objective opinion. So I tried to give you the knowledge you need to figure this out for yourself...

 
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