discocuzzy wrote:

LT...why don't you post of your own experiences rather than use other forum members quotes to boost your argument?.

Isn't that precisely what Andy does when recounting his endless hordes of euphoric tyre purchasers? Nothing wrong with quoting the experience of others (unless it's in front of the judge and the rohypnol has clouded the prosecution witnesses recollection of events )

Everything regarding performance quoted on these tyre threads is subjective or anectdotal anyway. I've yet to see empirical evidence for the mpg claims offered up by the ATR camp but on the flip side have only had poor experiences of longevity when using General tyres of various patterns on various vehicles in the past. All just my subjective opinion, the sum total of which is all just noise and a shrug if we're honest.

Andy is clearly happy to back the AT with his customers and as his business depends on his good reputation you have to assume he's not taking some wild punt with his recommendation. I'm very happy with my ATRs and hope that when my vehicle hits 120,000 miles they will still be around so I can buy a 3rd set. If they aren't available I may have to seek the opinion of others as to a suitable replacement

Nasher wrote:

No, no, no, no, NO.

I want to tell everyone, no, dictate to everyone, that the only tyre on this planet that is any good is the General AT, and that's correct because I say so.

Anyone who fits anything else to their D3/4 takes the risk of killing Puppies willy nilly as they wobble down the road on their 'other' tyres.

8)

Nasher.

discocuzzy wrote:

LT...why don't you post of your own experiences rather than use other forum members quotes to boost your argument?.
From an outsiders point of view it looks like you have a personal problem with AJS that is detrimental to the opinion of the majority of the forum members.
Please keep your views as observations in your own right and stop trying to rubbish all the good work and service that Andy and the gang have built up over the years on here
There will never be a winner in a "wots the best tyre " thread, so the guy asking the question is after forum members experiences as they will tell it as it is, not some biased twisted opinion from some nobber that has an axe to grind, so kindly jog on my pedigree chum

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beanie, I doubt anyone who has actually used them, would argue that the on road performance of the Pirell ATR is very similar to a road tyre.

Previously I've used Pirelli Scorpion Zero's and Goodyear Wranglers HP's on my D3 (both in 19"). In direct comparison to these with the 19" ATR's there's really virtually no difference at all in on road performance for noise or mpg. Personally, I actually prefer the ATR on road to the Wranglers, but ultimately when pushed hard (I rarely push the D3 hard anyway) steering feel with the Zero's is a bit sharper.

But as I do a lot of motorway miles, I can get c.50k miles from the ATR's whilst the Zero's and Wranglers were shot by c.20k miles. So it's a no brainer for me.

If you're ever near the Bristol area, your welcome to drive my D3 and see what you think.

Again all the above IMO, other All Terrain tyres are available

I fail to see where in this thread I've "rubbished" Andy and his gang? Or indeed said anything detrimental against any other brand of tyre.

I'm merely stating my opinion, that in my view the Pirelli ATR is most suited to the OP's requirements of on road use and caravan towing. If that causes you to think I'm a "nobber" with a "biased twisted opinion" that's sad, but c'est la vie. I'll stick with my opinion, but if you or anyone else, can give me your reasons why you believe the GG AT would be more suitable for the OP then I'm all ears. But for me, just because something is popular or a top seller, does not necessarily mean it's the best. If it did we'd all be driving a Ford Fiesta

I certainly have no axe to grind, I don't sell tyres and I don't work for a tyre company.

Nasher wrote:

No, no, no, no, NO.

I want to tell everyone, no, dictate to everyone, that the only tyre on this planet that is any good is the General AT, and that's correct because I say so.

Anyone who fits anything else to their D3/4 takes the risk of killing Puppies willy nilly as they wobble down the road on their 'other' tyres.

8)

Nasher.