bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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Opie oils do a version, I know they are contributors on here,
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 4th Jun 2012 11:28 pm |
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Gary c
Member Since: 03 Oct 2010
Location: Hertfordshire
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Still a little confused.Just picked up a litre of Tesco's 2 stroke motorcycle oil £3.95. It's FB and says low ash. My car is a euro4 MY08 so i assume it has a DPF is this oil suitable as an additive or shall i use it in the lawn mower? Thanks
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:12 pm |
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DSL
Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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You shouldn't have a dpf unless something funny is going on (euroland import say).
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:17 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Quote:Just picked up a litre of Tesco's 2 stroke motorcycle oil £3.95.
If that's the red oil from Tesco's that's fine its a good price. I have changed to Castrol Actevo from Asda Direct, at £5 per litre bottle.
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:30 pm |
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Gary c
Member Since: 03 Oct 2010
Location: Hertfordshire
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Ok thats good news then (i think).Thought i read a post that they were fitted on euro 4 engines but it must of been refering to euro exports. So i take it the 2 stroke oil i have is suitable as a fuel additive. By the way how do you tell if a vehicle has a DPF fitted? Can you see it?
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:35 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Just double checked mine, the Tesco oil is Jaso FB and the Castrol is Jaso FC. You would be better using the Castrol, especially if yours has a DPF. 
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:46 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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I do believe all d3 and 4 are fitted with a dpf, some call it cat, but they all have a device to trap the particulates from the exhaust gas, as are most current diesels.
I would play it safe and go fc,
It even states in the manual to run the vehicle at high revs for 30 mins occasionally if most mileage done at low speed to clear the dpf. See page 152
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:53 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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DSL wrote:You shouldn't have a dpf unless something funny is going on (euroland import say).
It would appear there is indeed Sumat funny going on.
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| 10th Jun 2012 1:57 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Quote:I do believe all d3 and 4 are fitted with a dpf, some call it cat,
The cat is fitted to all D3s, but the DPF is a completely different thing, it was only fitted to later models.
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| 10th Jun 2012 2:02 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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Cool , but if the op's d3 is an08 euro 4 his will be a later model and I would rather be safe than sooty 
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| 10th Jun 2012 2:10 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Yes that's true, he would be better using the Castrol Actevo FC
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| 10th Jun 2012 2:12 pm |
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D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
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Thanks Beanie for sharing the Asda link that's cheaper than amazon! And it's FC spec and mineral based: http://www.castrolmoto.com/en/products/actevo_2t.php A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS
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| 10th Jun 2012 2:47 pm |
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hgbosch
Member Since: 25 Oct 2010
Location: Pretoria and Zürich, Switzerland
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Hi guys
simple formula:
Without DPF: JasoFB OR Jaso-FC
with DPF: Jaso-FC only. Do not use a fully synthetic 2sO on a vehicle with dpf!!
2sO conforming to JASO-FC has superior carbon removing properties and is also low ash.
In Europe, where 0 - 5ppm diesel is sold, a 1:200 ratio should be used. In countries where 50ppm (or higher) diesel is sold, 200ml per tank (D3 and D4) is sufficient.
Hope this helps EX AFRICA SEMPER ALIQUID NOVI
SEMPER IN FAECIBUS SUMUS SOLE, PROFUNDUM VARIAT 
with kind regards
George Bosch
2005 Disco3 TDV6 S
2003 Range Rover Td6
1998 Disco1 ES 300Tdi (sold)
And some more serious stuff
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| 10th Jun 2012 8:03 pm |
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hgbosch
Member Since: 25 Oct 2010
Location: Pretoria and Zürich, Switzerland
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bambi wrote:I do believe all d3 and 4 are fitted with a dpf, some call it cat, but they all have a device to trap the particulates from the exhaust gas, as are most current diesels.
I would play it safe and go fc,
It even states in the manual to run the vehicle at high revs for 30 mins occasionally if most mileage done at low speed to clear the dpf. See page 152
Hi bambi
there is a fundamental difference between a cat and a dpf. All moderrn LR's from about 1997 onwards have a cat, but only Euro4 and higher have a DPF Diesel Particle Filter).
The use of 2sO in Jaso-FC grade will double the intervals in between burn free cycles of the DPF, which is a rock solid confirmation, that an engine run on 2sO puts out less particles than an engine run on diesel only. Let alone the substantial benefits in increased lifespan of CRD components due to (now) sufficient lubricity of the diesel. EX AFRICA SEMPER ALIQUID NOVI
SEMPER IN FAECIBUS SUMUS SOLE, PROFUNDUM VARIAT
with kind regards
George Bosch
2005 Disco3 TDV6 S
2003 Range Rover Td6
1998 Disco1 ES 300Tdi (sold)
And some more serious stuff
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| 10th Jun 2012 8:12 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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Hi Hgbosch, I have read many of your posts on the sa forum,
I am aware of he difference, but many on here keep pointing out that these land rovers don't have dpf's. I knew mine did but I was not aware that only euro 4 spec engines have the dpf fitted.
I have to say I am somewhat worried about sticking 2stroke oil in my tank.
I have put some in buti ended up putting semi synth jc spec oil in.
I couldn't get mineral jc locally. so went for the semi,
I will give it a couple of tanks to see if any benefits, if I find mineral jc I will buy it.
I read the other forum posting with relish, but as always there were two camps of which I could see merits from both sides.
I normally use a diesel additive to help lube the pump.
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| 10th Jun 2012 8:35 pm |
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