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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
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One .... .... for my snake oil !
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2nd Aug 2012 7:34 pm |
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IanT599
Member Since: 24 Jun 2012
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Looking to start using this oil for the first time today.
Just to confirm. 2 stroke oil as used in bikes and lawn mowers.
Mineral oil not synthetic or part synthetic.
I will need a full tank on visiting the pumps today. How much oil to add?
I need to gets small bottle for the car so looking at going to halfords for a 1ltr bottle of 2 stroke garden engine oil.
Will this be ok? Ian
No longer a LR owner
2018 BMW M240i
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3rd Aug 2012 10:50 am |
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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
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Why not just add Liquid Paraffin, Syrup of Figs or Andrews' Liver Salts for all the good it'll do for your mpg ?
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3rd Aug 2012 1:16 pm |
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Simon.pl
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Quite surprise to read that all of you have been putting oil to your tanks
Actually I did when I was travelling through Ukraine and knew, that the fuel was worse considering quality (more dry I would say). But I thought in Europe the gas is good enough to not put it in
Well - maybe I should change the habits? 8)
Somebody said it reduced smoke from the exhaust? Well - I had totally different experience With the acceleration pedal down it CAN leave the black cloud behind Wrapped Satin Yellow&Black; Lovells 2" Gas Legend Kit, OME hard springs. ATX 192 17" wheels with Cooper STT M/T tires. ProSpeed Roof Rack & Rear Ladder. Custom made underbody protection, front bumper, rock sliders, spare wheel and accessories mountings, drawer system. WARN 9,5XP Winch. Front and Rear Light Guards, Safari Snorkel. VIAIR X'treme Duty OBA, Traxide USI-160 system, Danhag GSM & IPCU modules, IID Tool BT, James Baroud roof tent and awnings, and air horn for fun
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5th Aug 2012 5:36 am |
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IanT599
Member Since: 24 Jun 2012
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Can anyone confirm my post above thanks. Ian
No longer a LR owner
2018 BMW M240i
2011 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - Gone
2004 TD5 ES - Gone
2008 TDV6 G4 -Sold and missed very much
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5th Aug 2012 7:44 am |
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NickJ
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Mineral two stroke oil as used in outboard motors and other two stroke engines etc.
I think its recommended for 200:1 mix so apparenelt for a full tank apparently that's about 350ml. I may start using oil in my diesel as of today, if I fill 3/4 tank I'm going to put in 250ml.
If you Google 'two stroke oil in diesel' you'll get loads of information.
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5th Aug 2012 7:58 am |
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NJSS
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Simon.pl
I assume by referring to "gas" you mean petrol ("gasolene") ?
This thread refers to diesel powered Discoveries.
IanT599
The Discovery tank hold somewhat over 80 litres, so 200:1 gives you 400ml for a nearly empty tank. 350ml is fine, but you can't hurt things by overdosing slightly.
Any mineral 2 stroke oil complying with the JASO FC specification will be fine; Catrol Actevo is readily available from Tesco, Asda & more expensively Halfords.
You may find it easiest to bulk buy from Asda.
NJSS Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
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5th Aug 2012 8:08 am |
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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
Member Since: 04 Nov 2010
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IanT599 wrote:Can anyone confirm my post above thanks.
Seen my reply?
Try reading 'The King's New Clothes' !
OR
AAA
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5th Aug 2012 8:16 am |
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NJSS
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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
You are of course free, but not necessarily intelligent, to make fun of & ignore the benefits from adding 2 stoke mineral oil to diesel.
I cannot see any arguement against doing this, and remember what I have been told many times:-
Quote: "There's none so blind as those who won't see".
NJSS
Edited because my conversions (now deleted) were wrong ! Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
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5th Aug 2012 8:28 am |
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NickJ
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AAA... are you not a believer then? 8)
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5th Aug 2012 8:29 am |
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NoDo$h
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Cough-cough..... lab test proves 2SO reduces engine wear in diesel engine. Lubricity improved. Cough-cough
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177728
I'm finding a lot of references to lab tests proving that 2SO slightly decreasing cetane, which slows the burn wave marginally. That would explain the reduced clatter some experience. I've an open mind on this one - so far I have found lab evidence to support some of the claims made (quieter, less wear) but no lab based evidence for other claims (mpg and cleaning your egrs). It may be out the, but then I haven't devoted hours to finding it. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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5th Aug 2012 9:45 am |
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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
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NJSS wrote: AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
You are of course free, but not necessarily intelligent, to make fun of & ignore the benefits from adding 2 stoke mineral oil to diesel;
Why do you assert that I’m making fun? Can you not differentiate between a light touch critique and making fun of something?
Despite your un-scientific 'trials ', there isn’t any proof that such additives do anything for your mpg other than add to the profits of the already bloated Oil Coys, .
As all those who are versed in the methods of Science and Technology, the essence of a Scientific experiment is that it is open to being dis-proved – yours are not.
Do please try to use the concept of intelligence where it is appropriate, in this context knowledge is probably the better word.
Quote: but it costs less than nothing; see this post:-http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/post962520.html#962520
‘less than nothing’ is a negative ?? I see that you've corrected this.
Reference to your own ‘Hawthorne effect’ skewed data is not proof of anything, other than illustrating your profound mis-understanding of logical progression in quantitative data capture
Quote: I cannot see any arguement against doing this,
What about :
It is a waste of money
Your methodology is faulty
Your arithmetic was a mess
You might be seen to be attempting to encourage others down the road of embracing spurious cure alls, e.g Homeopathy, Faith Healing, PPIs, Endowment Policy based Mortgages
Quote:and remember what I have been told many times:-
"There's none so blind as those who won't see".
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.â€â€” Matthew 7:5
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5th Aug 2012 9:48 am |
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NoDo$h
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No need for the ad-hominem..... that's my job.
I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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5th Aug 2012 9:52 am |
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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
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NickJ wrote:AAA... are you not a believer then? 8)
Blessings be upon you child, and the Father will you in the vestry later, .... ...
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5th Aug 2012 9:55 am |
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AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan
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NoDo$h wrote:No need for the ad-hominem..... that's my job.
.... ...![Laughing Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif)
Having read your Profile -
Interests: Sarcasm, schadenfreude and trolling
I recognize your rights in this demarcation issue, and ... ... to your superior skills and experience.
AAA
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5th Aug 2012 10:03 am |
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