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Smoking after idling for a while
Hi can anyone help. I'm really happy with my car but when I get caught in traffic and sit ticking over for a while the car smokes like a pig until I get going again. Took it to a local garage who said the number 6 injector was being lazy and 1&2 were over fueling to compensate. He said he would do some research and get back to me. I've heard nothing. Has anyone had this and is the fix a new injector. ???
Is it white smoke f so it could be your egr's leaking coolant .. you need to bypass the egr's to see if this stops it smoking as anything injector related is going to be expensive ..
Flack
11th Jul 2013 11:38 am
Trigger4558
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Cheers Flack.
I don't think its coolant as it smells like unburnt fuel
Ok you need to get your cylinder balance checked out with a diagnostic kit, this should give you an idea of which cylinder's are out and tie up with your local garage's report..if thats the case.
Flack
11th Jul 2013 12:40 pm
Trigger4558
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Hi flack. I mentioned in my first post about the injectors having an issue with being out of balance is this the same as your talking about? I have lots of smooth power and the car sounds lovely. It only smokes when it's been ticking over for a short while.
Yes its the same thing but how did your local garage come up with there diagnoses did they stick a diag kit on it ?.
Flack
11th Jul 2013 8:18 pm
Trigger4558
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Yes he pluged it in to a computer which gave him some info.
11th Jul 2013 10:58 pm
Cad
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Hi Trig,
I'm having the identical problem on mine, smokes after being stationary for over 30-60seconds and smells like fuel or oil being burnt if I get out. Other than that drives smooth as a new.
13th Jul 2013 6:54 pm
Trigger4558
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What we need is someone who has had the problem who has solved it hey ?
14th Jul 2013 12:50 pm
Robbie
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Whilst people have fixed symptoms such as this nobody can give you a definitive diagnosis without looking at the live data.
The diagnosis you have is incomplete and although it is likely to be an injector it is not the only cause. Most of us would need proof of the injector's guilt before replacing it as the things are just far too expensive.
Injector balance limits are between 960 and 1.4 k, with the higher figure providing more fuel. If you take your car to a good indy he will conduct a fuel spill check (Timed Flow Rate 1 minute idle Min rate 10 ml - Max rate 25 ml; 4 minute idle Min rate 15 ml - Max rate 26 ml). Even if outside of the limits I would only discard an injector if was significantly outside of the flow rates given by the other injectors - especially in hot weather as this will skew the results.
Sorry that I cannot be more definitive but with more data it is hard to know. Given the price of the suspect parts this is an issue well-worth taking to an indie.
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Thanks robbie you defiantly sound as if you know your stuff. I hate this sort fault. One that leaves you wondering what to do for the best. 95% of the time it runs clean.
14th Jul 2013 4:14 pm
BAZ8046
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Hi, had the same problem on mine. Was driving fine most of the time but would smoke and smell of unburnt fuel when left ticking over. I did also had a judder at motorway speeds if you came off and then went back on the accelerator. Mine was number 6 injector. Expensive to replace but has cured the problem. Have done 20k since with no issues. Hope this helps.D4 2016 Landmark, Waitomo Grey.
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14th Jul 2013 8:33 pm
Trigger4558
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Cheers baz
14th Jul 2013 8:50 pm
Robbie
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Trigger4558 wrote:
Thanks robbie you defiantly sound...
Didn't mean to sound quite so rebellious!
Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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It would be nice to be able to try replacing my number 6 injector to see if that fixed it instead of going through all the diagnostics that the garages like to do and charge you for. I can see me throwing loads of money at this and not curing it.
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