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Phew, quite a response!
Bottom line is my previous teaching is correct and copper grease plus full torque is bad.
So now I have 20 nuts and studs to clean this weekend. I think brake cleaner is pretty good at shifting copper grease, together with the ubiquitous blue roll. What fun.
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27th Jan 2012 6:47 pm
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I have always put a dot of copper slip on wheel stud in the 30 years in the job and never had any problems especially on commercials.
And until you have had a snapped stud because it hasn't been off for a while, because its as dry as nuns clout ....
and then have to strip it to replace it you will know why i apply a bit of the shiny copper magic .... works for me but everyone to thier own MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
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27th Jan 2012 6:56 pm
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Your referring of course to steel wheels generally where the use of copper grease and similar is commonplace and torque is 'stand on it' tight. but not to be used for alloys.....Bodsys Brake Bible
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27th Jan 2012 8:31 pm
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But the threads are steel to steel?
I have seen so many threads damaged from being so dry they squeak, that some lube is required.
BMW use some form of clear grease from the factory.
28th Jan 2012 6:01 am
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only on the hub not the thread promise ive seen more BMW wheels than most
simple rule with wheel bolts / threads dry only it is that simple
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28th Jan 2012 7:00 am
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That's all good and well on never vehicles, on some the wheel bolt thread is exposed behind the bearing and does go very rusty.
From all the instances I have see where wheels have come loose there is another reason like aftermarket wheels with no spigot rings or incorrect rings, wrong taper fixings and bolts/nuts tightened with weight already on the wheels.
28th Jan 2012 7:50 am
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Never seen a rusty bolt on a BMW or Mini cross threaded over torqued from the factory yes ( and your local tyre monkey) but not rusty
Rusty nuts on the Defender all day long lets face it if you have a regular maintance programme in place the wheels should be off enough times to prevent failure
BMW service action is to clear crud and apply brake grease to the mating service
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28th Jan 2012 8:17 am
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I have seen more BMW minis than most and they corrode like crazy, the black finish just turns to rust.
I can't see how they could cross thread at the factory as a cool machine puts all 4/5 in at the same time
28th Jan 2012 8:25 am
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if you say so
28th Jan 2012 8:31 am
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Ok, I now understand that the 'dry nuts' is not a universally held opinion which may make me a little more forgiving of the garage that did it (not done by my regular indie).
I'm a wheel swapper anyway so my nuts are removed at least 3 times a year (probably more) so less chance of binding corrosion. Like my indie, I do apply a little copperslip on the hub/wheel centre with only positive results.
Interesting debate all the same.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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because its as dry as nuns clout ....
