steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: pontefract west yorkshire
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| HELP engine system failure |
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got these codes to work off any clue before i spend loads of cash  P2290 injector control to low ! and P120F fuel presure regulator ! any clue as to where i should look first car runs fine then all the usual bells and chimes on display it says engine system failure re start car and all ok again "for a bit" Could run for 60 miles no problem then play up pulling out of a junction or best 1 70 mph in outside lane "  my self" i have changed the fuel filter thinking it was this but no  is the pick up pipe in the tank easy to check as been told this could be blocked and holding back the fuel ? or is the presure regulator easy find "been told it could be this " and is it part of the HPFP "loads of money" me thinks so dont want it to be that or poss a injector on its way out car not on high miles only 60k. treated reg on injector cleaner to many thanks STEVE always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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P2290 is low fuel pressure. You have already changed the filter, so that can be ruled out.
There is a little bleed valve at the back of the engine, to check fuel pressure. IIRC, it should be around 0.6-0.7bar at idle at that point, and im sure it drops to around 0.5bar when driving. If this is OK, it indicates that the LP Fuel pump and pick up etc is fine
Ideally, you need it plugged in and check the live readings for the HP side of the system when it does fault. My D3 Build Thread
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| 9th Jul 2011 5:47 am |
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ELD70
Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Romford.
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How about the split intercooler pipe problem people have mentioned in the past? Do a forum search maybe...
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| 9th Jul 2011 8:09 am |
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steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: pontefract west yorkshire
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will check inter cooler pipes as not looked at that side yet as for checking presure on fuel side need to ask around and see who as the means to test this . had garage run car for 10 miles with snap on diagnostic plugged in and god dam car ran spot on guy in garage seems to think its a sticking solanoid to do with the hpfp ? with the codes that are logged in system always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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| 9th Jul 2011 12:04 pm |
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ajg_e
Member Since: 04 Mar 2011
Location: Blue Mountains NSW
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Hi,
I had the same problem.
Turned out to be the high pressure fuel pump. extended warranty kicked in 
Regards
Andrew
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| 10th Jul 2011 4:16 pm |
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steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: pontefract west yorkshire
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| thanks Andrew for the info |
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the hpfp would be my worst fear mines not under warranty anymore seen a pump on Ebay just short of £500 GULP then find some one to fit it got my fingers crossed its not that not had chance to look at it yet due to work  . BUT if theres any offers to look/do it in the area of yorkshire would be welcome near to PONTEFRACT MANY THANKS.
STEVE always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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| 10th Jul 2011 6:34 pm |
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steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: pontefract west yorkshire
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well sorry for the delay god dam work my car is 1 of the first ones 54 plate mikey but spent some time reading some old posts and seen an isue about none gen filters and i fitted a brit part so of to maian stealer to get gen part first and start again  always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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| 11th Jul 2011 5:20 am |
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steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: pontefract west yorkshire
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that was a waste of £50 plus £15 for old filter just chucked in the bin gen lr filter now on ESF within 1 mile of fitting new filter have to resort to a garage now as had a belley full of it but it only did it the once out for a run later lets see if it happens again  always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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| 12th Jul 2011 5:13 pm |
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JimboD3
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Give Pete @ Bell Autos a call - he knows the TDV6 inside out !
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| 12th Jul 2011 5:19 pm |
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steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
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thats great will give him a call if it does it again. already met pete before got the svs reset tool off him taking the car for its usual east coast run on thursday that will see if the new filter as worked "but i"m not holding my breath" get ready pete ...... or the firebrigade  always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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| 12th Jul 2011 7:52 pm |
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riddicks
Member Since: 02 Mar 2006
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When I got that error and symptoms it was my intercooler that was shot. It had a few punctures and was losing pressure. But I had noticed a drop in overall power before it went completely.
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| 12th Jul 2011 9:24 pm |
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steve the magpie
Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: pontefract west yorkshire
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| ESF with these codes p2290 and p120f ? |
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would the inter cooler bring up just these codes ? as they are for the injector psi and fuel presure regulator! also maybe just my paranoid mind but think the pump in the tank is a bit noisey than before SWMBO says been like it ages!. so what is the best way to check the fuel presure from the tank pump ? just to eliminate that "can i just use a tyre gauge on the outlet at rear of engine bay? if it is the tank pump any clue how much the pump is and how hard to do the job me thinks looking at it tank as to come off is that true. did pump on my td5 through boot floor but dont think theres a trap door in the floor on a d3 steve always up to somert usualy no good acording to swmbo
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| 16th Jul 2011 9:24 am |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
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| Re: ESF with these codes p2290 and p120f ? |
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steve the magpie wrote:SNIP
dont think theres a trap door in the floor on a d3 steve
Hi Steve,
You are right. The fuel tank has to be removed.
Best Wishes,
Peter The Bearded Dragon
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| 17th Jul 2011 3:10 am |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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If it was an interclloer, it would come up with a turbo pressure fault
P2290, is low fuel pressure at the injector rail (after the HPFP)
A few things can cause this fault.
IT has already had a fuel filter (which is the most common fault) so that can be ruled out
You can check the fuel pressure using the valve at the back of the engine bay. Whether a tyre pressure gauge would work, I dont know... You should be getting about 0.6-0.8 bar of pressure. Any less, then suspect a faulty in-tank pump, or blocked pick-up pipe etc. Tank has to be dropped to access it
The High side fuel pressure needs to be read via diagnostics, due to the pressures involved
While it is on a diagnostic machine, check the fuel pressure regulator is working properly, as if not, it will lower the fuel pressure @ the injectors, which would bring up your fault
And also the rail pressure sensor, as this tells the ECU the fuel pressure at the rail. Again, if this is faulty, it will tell the ECU that fuel pressure is lower than it actually is, bringing up said fault
While uncommon, it would also be worthwhile checking the wiring between the sensors on the engine, and the ECU itself, just to rule any broken wires etc My D3 Build Thread
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