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23rd Nov 2015 9:01 pm
ropey_10
Member Since: 11 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Hello can anybody help I am new to this forum, I have a 2007 discovery 3 today I pulled up at work and noticed a noise from engine, after taking off the fan cowel I noticed a pulley stuck in the fan belt. It turns out it is my timing belt pulley it has broken off of the oil pump. It seems to have been cracked for a while, and there was minimal metal holding it on. I think it actually broke on start up. The car has done 129,000 and the belt was done by main dealer on the 17/05/13. What can I do? Where do I stand?
Search here you will see that if that is the case there's a possibility that LR might contribute to the new engine which you are likely to need.
Whereabouts in Hampshire are you from?
Good luck, keep us posted.
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11th Dec 2015 4:50 pm
MarkOne
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Another 07MY there will hardly be any left on the road that this hasn't happened to, hope you get a bit of help at least in repairing it, fingers crossed.
11th Dec 2015 4:54 pm
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Are you sure it is the Cam belt tensioner pulley ? that wouldn't be visible normally......and it would be a miracle that the engine was still running when you arrived at work, if it was indeed a busted tensioner mounting.D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
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11th Dec 2015 5:26 pm
ropey_10
Member Since: 11 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Hi I'm in Botley Southampton, the pulley has broken from the oil pump, I have a feeling it happened when I started up after noticing a noise under the bonnet. I can tell it is the cambelt pulley as it has smashed through the plastic cover and I can get my hand on the cambelt. There is about an inch of play but it is still intact. What are the odds that if I replace the oil pump with new ungraded pulley and put the belt back on that it will not have done any damage?
I'm so off but how was I to know!
11th Dec 2015 7:00 pm
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Hi, was the engine still running with no nasty noises up to when you noticed the pulley hanging off? Obviously don't try to start it now. If so you may have been very lucky and a new oil pump, tensioner, belt etc and it may be ok, but if the engine ground to a halt amidst a clatter, you will have a major job on your hands Good luck, hope you've been lucky. D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
11th Dec 2015 7:08 pm
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You might have been very lucky. If the belt is still on the pulleys, and it just failed at start up, I think the tensioner pulley is on the slack side of the belt, so maybe the belt was still on the crank and cam pulleys, and kept things in time?
Someone with more experience of this will chip in I am sure, but whatever you do, do not turn the engine over until damage or no damage is verified.
11th Dec 2015 7:11 pm
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I've certainly seen people get the majority of a repair paid for by LR. Especially if they're the ones that changed the timing belt.
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11th Dec 2015 7:47 pm
ropey_10
Member Since: 11 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
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The assistant manager at hardwoods didn't have much time for me tbh considering it had a cam belt kit by them! This shouldn't have happened! He said bring it down and we can have a look but you will be liable for the bill. I will just keep my fingers crossed that it hasn't done to much damage why would the engine turn over without firing? obviously this morning when I went to start it I didn't know the tensioner had burst through cowling?
11th Dec 2015 8:00 pm
Slate8
Member Since: 20 Oct 2015
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About to book my 2008 in to have the oil pump updated. Made this comparison image in the process so will post here to help others. These are not my photos I just put them together and labeled them
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23rd Dec 2015 11:36 am
hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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Hi all,
Does anyone have any pictures of the original 05/06 pump casing, presumably it looked like the new version - if it is stronger?
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23rd Dec 2015 12:43 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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The original 05/06 casing looks identical to the old versionMy D3 Build Thread
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
The original 05/06 casing looks identical to the old version
Wanted to pick up on this. What has changed about the pumps in the vulnerable (if not an understatement) range - to make it a definite requirement to change them, but not the pumps prior to the vulnerable range - if both look identical?
23rd Dec 2015 2:52 pm
Disco_Mikey
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I don't know, is the easy answer
The EU3 and EU4 pumps LOOK identical, but have different ID marks etc, and a new part number.
Whether it was a change in material, or a poor casting, or something else, who knows. No one has been particularly forthcoming with information on anything related to oil pumps
That said, EU3 pumps are not immune from breaking off the tensioner either, but no where near as commonMy D3 Build Thread
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