sarumlight
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The one in the vid, which looks very familiar, has a broken crank.
Could that have been caused because the tensioner came loose? Or is it more likely that things happened the other way around - after the crank siezed, there was a huge tension on the belt and the tensioner bracket is the weakest part of the linkage. Hard to say that was the root cause - could have been low oil, water in the engine, bad crankshaft, blocked oilway...
Ian have you had the sump off yours to see if everything is OK below?
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
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DiscoStu wrote:Still presuming this is the cause, and not a result, of course 
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| 3rd Jun 2012 5:02 pm |
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DaveT
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CFB wrote:Did the red pearl go with the mud plate on? If so its gotta be one and the same I reckon. AndrewS got a lucky escape!
I saw it in Christchurch in about March, wearing the MUD plate Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
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| 3rd Jun 2012 5:18 pm |
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DrLex
Member Since: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Ciderspace [Oi be in Zummerset]
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CFB wrote:Did the red pearl go with the mud plate on? If so its gotta be one and the same I reckon. AndrewS got a lucky escape!
Remember, he did sell it over two years ago.
@ DiscoStu, although there does seem to be an imbalance of 07 plates suffering with the issue. Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
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| 3rd Jun 2012 6:03 pm |
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
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Mine is an 07 and the crank went, only I could hear it 'picking up' and stopped the engine before it broke.
I'm not saying the tensioner isn't the fault, just that it's going to be hard to prove. Even if the design weakened it, there's nothing to say it's not the crank seizing (or some other fault) that caused it to fail. Disco 5 HSE Lux
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| 3rd Jun 2012 6:40 pm |
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bulletman
Member Since: 28 Mar 2012
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Unnecessary quote removed
I did notice the broken crank, and must admit I thought the same, that maybe that caused the tensioner to break , but if its the crank that is picking up, does that mean that its now 20 cars that have had the crank seize or partially seize and cause the tensioner to fail... that puts a different spin on things..
Its not good no matter which way, especially seeing my Vin # is in the range that has the failed tensioner's 
Cheers Bulletman
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| 3rd Jun 2012 11:08 pm |
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buda
Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
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I dont get it........How could a broken crank cause the cambelt to place enough force on the idler for it to break the mounting plate?? would it not take tons of pressure on the holding bolt to break the mounting...... Seems to me that vibration over many years may have weakened the casting.......
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| 9th Jun 2012 12:05 am |
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driveadisco
Member Since: 09 Jun 2012
Location: Lancs
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'54 plate - 78,000 miles - automatic
Cam belt and tensioners replaced 6 weeks ago - view pics in my gallery to see what happened to engine last Thursday.
If you think it's just 07s I'd have a rethink.
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| 10th Jun 2012 9:47 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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Did a main dealer do yours and have they accepted any responsibility. This has the makings of a serious issue for Land Rover, as it seems relative the number of people who post there are quite a few failures.
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| 10th Jun 2012 9:57 pm |
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Bodsy
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| 10th Jun 2012 9:57 pm |
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driveadisco
Member Since: 09 Jun 2012
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The work was carried out at my friend's garage.Judging by what i've read on here, I'm not putting it down to shoddy workmanship on his part,but more to manufacturing faults and where they could be produced at the cheapest cost.
I'll know more about the damage next week after a new oil pump/casing has been fitted.
Then ......................Hope springs eternal.
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| 10th Jun 2012 11:09 pm |
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DG
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So....let me read between the lines .... it was OK for 78k and 8 years ...but it let go after some recent replacement work ....and it's a manufacturing fault  Is that what you are saying ? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 10th Jun 2012 11:20 pm |
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Gareth
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Cripes !! I've got a timing belt service coming up next  I have to be honest, I'm nervous about it. It would be great to know what makes this happen.
Mine is definitely going to main dealers.
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| 10th Jun 2012 11:24 pm |
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DG
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Should we do a poll to assess which MY's are having the problem  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 10th Jun 2012 11:28 pm |
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chalky
Member Since: 22 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
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I think thats a good idea DG !
My @rse isnt twitching like a rabbits nose just yet Because my belts havent been replaced,
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Some have reportedly let go at 60K - 64K
I'm there now and i have thought about it several times whilst driving over the past week. Only dead fish go with the Flow !
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| 10th Jun 2012 11:40 pm |
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