Member Since: 24 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
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Hi there - i read through this thread and i hope others who have the same problem also get here becuase it is worth it and i must say that all the peeps who have contributed on here are legends!!
Our situation was that the mrs' 57 plate with 75k miles died a couple of weeks ago. We got it recovered back to dealer and confirmed casting had failed
I stumbled across the disco3.co.uk site and found the link here thank god!
Long story short if it wasnt down to the research of others that formed the basis of a letter to land rover i dont think our outcome would have happened.
Fortunately we had extended warranty on ours that agreed to stump up 3,6k however the balance of about 4+k was up in the air.
Credit to the dealer they did say that they would see what, if any, assistance they could get from LR and they channelled our letter through LRCS.
The result? Success LR agreed to premature component failure and that they would cover the cost of repair! I am sooooooo grateful to all that did the legwork and cant thank you enough. The beers are on me!
24th Nov 2013 3:56 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeesult.
24th Nov 2013 3:59 pm
disco5
Member Since: 23 Dec 2012
Location: birmingham
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result ... i mite have to push some more for a free engine not 50/50 as agreed at 4k now plus 50 off any other parts that they brake changing ancillary bits over ,mine was premature failure at 215 k as well...
24th Nov 2013 4:04 pm
DiscoJoe90
Member Since: 09 Aug 2013
Location: Leicestershire
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Good result Diso3lee..... It was through info on this forum that I decided to change the casting during my trucks timing belt change.... The ironic thing is the part only cost £60 and yet it can cause £0000s of damage...07 Discovery 3 GS TDV6 - GG ATs, RLD Sump and Sills, D3 sticker & key ring!
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24th Nov 2013 4:29 pm
Diso3lee
Member Since: 24 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 2
Your so right DiscoJoe90....... untold damage for such a cheap yet vital part. its just a shame though that there must be unfortunate owners out there that havent researched the problem and thought they were on their own so coughed up the cash to fix the problem let alone change the casting before too late. looking at the work that has to be done to put it right
24th Nov 2013 4:38 pm
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Great result Lee and nothing short of free for this failure IMHO (and experience of course! Lol)Bodsys Brake Bible
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24th Nov 2013 11:22 pm
eljot
Member Since: 15 Nov 2013
Location: wasserburg am inn
Posts: 90
hey guys,
just stumbled over this thread here and do not really know now which was the bigger fault, buying a discovery 3 or looking into this forum here!?
bought the disco two weeks ago (06/2007, 8A442...) and just searched for some infos about timing belt change, as i need to do it next year.
after reading that issue with the faulty oilpump i do not really know what to do now!?
is the faulty oilpump visible during the timing belt change? are there definitely two different oilpumps available (a weak one and a stiff one)?
is the change big effort?
to be honest, looking onto the following pics, i do not really see any differences (just the color) between the left and right part!! no additional stiffeners, etc.!!
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thx, martin
27th Nov 2013 6:52 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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The left one is the new style pump, and the right is the old style
I have highlighted the areas where it has been strengthened
It is a lot of effort to replace it, but not as much effort needed to take on Land Rover, to cover the cost of a replacement engine, if it fails...My D3 Build Thread
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ah okay, i can see now the differences!! should be possible to see during belt change!?
so which LR-partnumber does the "new" one have??
thx, martin
27th Nov 2013 7:09 am
Fifth Horseman
Member Since: 23 Oct 2012
Location: Lanarkshire
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LR013487
27th Nov 2013 7:48 am
eljot
Member Since: 15 Nov 2013
Location: wasserburg am inn
Posts: 90
hm, funny! sent an email to LR germany about this issue and just got the answer that all discovery 3 have the SAME oilpump installed and i can come back to them if my engine is broken due to the oilpump, etc.!
28th Nov 2013 12:39 pm
Fifth Horseman
Member Since: 23 Oct 2012
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 217
LR013487 is now specified as the replacement for all of the D3 TDV6 engines, however during the production run there were five different part numbers used (or specified in Microcat)
to 6A999999 --------------- 1348651
7A000001 to 8A457085 --- LR002465
8A475086 to 9A508509 --- LR007131
9A508510 to 9A510121 --- LR007798
9A510122 on --------------- LR013487
28th Nov 2013 4:48 pm
boater
Member Since: 06 Dec 2012
Location: Thisted
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Tensioner Breaking off oilpump
I do not Think the most common reason for the pump house to break is stress from belt running out the side, cams siezed, hpfp siezed or similar. Remember the tensioner is the last driven part ( the part is only Holding the belt tight, not under much tension) if the tensioner breaks it normally happens when the normally driving part (crankshaft) suddently stops, because of bearing seizure on the crankshaft, or broken crank. It might happen if the car when reversing, is put into forward gear, forcing it to suddently stop and turn backwards. Normally if any of the driven parts siezes up, the belt Will snap between the driving pulley and the siezed pulley.
29th Nov 2013 9:26 pm
sj9011
Member Since: 04 Jun 2011
Location: Southampton
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The engine to stop and turn backwards when going from forward to reverse, I don't think so!!!!!!!
30th Nov 2013 8:45 am
Robbie
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Re: Tensioner Breaking off oilpump
boater wrote:
...if the tensioner breaks it normally happens when the normally driving part (crankshaft) suddently stops, because of bearing seizure on the crankshaft, or broken crank. It might happen if the car when reversing, is put into forward gear, forcing it to suddently stop and turn backwards. Normally if any of the driven parts siezes up, the belt Will snap between the driving pulley and the siezed pulley.
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