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freelaner
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Tonga GreenDiscovery 3
Verifying Vehicle Identity

I have found a disco that I want to buy and agreed a deal. However as this is a private seller I want to be sure that the vehicle is not cloned.
What is the best way to check and is there a company/service that will check it over for me? I have checked myself and all seems above board but I dont know enough to be sure.

Alex
  
Post #67640026th Jul 2010 9:04 am
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Russell
 


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How long have they had the vehicle, is it multi owner, if so may be worth posting details on here as it may well have been owned in the past by a forum member. Thumbs Up
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Post #67640526th Jul 2010 9:10 am
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Mark Y
 


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The AA and RAC both carry out vehicle inspections for a fee, could be worth it if you are not confident and don't want to get caught out .
  
Post #67643326th Jul 2010 10:02 am
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freelaner
 


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Bit reluctant to put a photo of the reg on the net as I may end up buying it and dont want the reg for all to see.

It is quite distintive though in the fact that its a well specced up "S" model but with sat nav and harmon kardon and HSE wheels. Original owner was from Hampshire or Surrey way. Has had another owner in Suffolk since then. Comes with pretty much every receipt since new and lots of old MOT's which match what is on the DVLA MOT records.

HPI all comes up ok with VIN numbers etc

The only worry is that they have only had it since April this year. They say they dont use it and want a new defender instead.

Spoken to the AA and RAC

The AA wont actually guarantee the identity and the person at the RAC asked me what did I mean by checking if its cloned. Both checks circa £400
  
Post #67652226th Jul 2010 12:53 pm
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Personally I would not worry about reg number, you can drive round any town or down any motorway and get hundreds of reg numbers to clone if you were that way inclined. There are a lot of members from Hampshire area who may know the car or even have owned the car so may well be able to put your min at rest. I had an S spec before the D4 but it did not have the sat nav.
Hope all goes ok and you enjoy your new toy Thumbs Up
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #67653426th Jul 2010 1:20 pm
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Woody3
 


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I stuck the Reg Plate of a potential buy on here not too long ago to get some history of the car etc...

A certain member helped me out a great deal.
  
Post #67653726th Jul 2010 1:32 pm
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freelaner
 


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Your probably right if someone wants to nick your reg they'll do it anyway! The vehicle is LG05 YJR will post a pic later!

Alex
  
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bellautos
 


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The best way to ID it is log it on to diag tools and make a network intergrity test which will show all the vins in the modules on the car, of which most are one time program only so cant be changed.

If it were suspect the modules would have wrong vins inside.

Pete
  
Post #67658226th Jul 2010 3:55 pm
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freelaner
 


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bellautos wrote:
The best way to ID it is log it on to diag tools and make a network intergrity test which will show all the vins in the modules on the car, of which most are one time program only so cant be changed.

If it were suspect the modules would have wrong vins inside.

Pete


What does that involve Pete?
  
Post #67664926th Jul 2010 6:40 pm
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bellautos
 


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Connecting to diagnostic tools running the test, it will take about 30 minsfrom start to finish, its a simple process really.

Pete
  
Post #67666826th Jul 2010 7:10 pm
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Hi freelaner,

From the reg. number this is what the car SHOULD be: Land Rover Discovery 3 TDV6 S, Manual, Green.

First registered in Wimbledon, London on the 31-5-2005. Taxed until the end of November 2010.

I had exactly the same concerns when buying mine. It's worth doing an HPI check, one feature is mileage verification, whenever the vehicle has been into the dealers or an MOT station the mileage is taken and goes onto a database, so any discrepancy in then flagged up.

Hope this helps and good luck Thumbs Up

G.M.
  
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pom
 


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follow the guide on the hpi check.

You need to ID the seller with drivers licence or utility. There is no risk if it passes HPI as they will insure you against it subsequently failing one of the checks.

When you have look check the vin plate, they would have to be very very good to forge it and i cant see a crook bothering on an old disco.

Pom
  
Post #67667426th Jul 2010 7:17 pm
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freelaner
 


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done a HPI check and a DVLA MOT records check and everything has come up ok. The details on the MOT records check match with the old MOT certificates that are with the vehicle.
Grease Monkey where did you get that info from?
Obviously there is the VIN plate in the windscreen, is the VIN anywhere else?
  
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Just go to any online insurer and type in the reg number when you search for a price is one way.
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freelaner wrote:
.....is the VIN anywhere else?

Chassis underneath by drivers seat from memory.
  
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