denny crane wrote:

When I sat in the D4 I was confused first of all, as I thought I had gone to the Range Rover first!
(well, as it was a styling based car, the nav screen did say range rover as the software was not yet available!)
You also get two sets of rear wireless headphones by the way

It really is a very nice interior. I am yet to get my head around the terrain control/height control placement as in park, its a little difficult to get to, but at least in that position the numptys won't throw their coffee into the electrics as is what currently happens on the disco 3!

The exterior looks fantasic in the flesh and the grille looks way better than my Disco 3 grille, makes the car look more agresssive funnily enough.

Whilst I understand those of you who want a utilitarian low spec wash it out at the end of the day Discovery, thats not the market segument the Discovery sells into.
The UK is only about 20% of total world wide sales and the markets it sells in want more style, the complaints about the Disco 3 is that the interior is too utilitarian now. This is the feeling across the world including the UK, sorry but thats the facts.

Sorry guys, but LR are more interested in original sales than second or third hand sales down the road and the majority of those want comfort and style with the ability to go off road once in a while. hence the furture 10 speed auto boxes.
The car however will still perform off road as well as the Disco 3, thats for sure.

In the USA the Freelander 2 is not selling as it looks too similar to other small SUV's, the Discovery because it is too utilitarian inside, in fact, what is keeping the company going at the moment is sales of the RR, as the people who buy these like the style and interior and don't want it changed!

I am surprised there has been little comment on the 3.0 Ltr deisel replacing the 2.7 in all but the base line GS

ferrett wrote:

The spec sheet only shows an auto....what about manual?

Looks like the 2.7L TDV6 will still be available with a manual box, 3.0L is auto only. MPG & CO2 emission figures are just about the same for either option though the 2.7L auto option is worse (as it currently is). 3.0L 0-60mph is 2sec quicker than the 2.7L manual (3sec quicker than the 2.7L auto), top speed on all but the 5.0L petrol lump (which I presume we won't get in the UK) is still limited to 112mph. Coils still available on the 2.7L though I presume this too won't be available in the UK

Looks like I'll have to buy my first LR with an auto box

New water cooled EGRs

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The new, water-cooled, exhaust gas recirculation system (EGR), important for reducing pumping losses and emissions of NOX in a diesel engine, is more efficient and consumes less power than its predecessor, with the valves allowing exhaust gas into the system being located on the ‘hot side’ of the engine nearest the exhaust manifolds. These valves never cool while the engine is running, so there is no condensation of combustion deposits which occurs on engines fitted with ‘cold side’ valves, hence the EGR system always works at maximum efficiency. Since the EGR cooling is so effective, exhaust gasses can bypass the system and return to the exhaust pipes, allowing faster engine warm-up from start-up and reducing emissions still further.

Extra 1000 miles between services

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increased service intervals of 16,000 miles.

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Land Rover's patented device for the diesel fuel filler neck, to reduce the risk of inadvertent fuelling with petrol, is fitted to the new Discovery 4.

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REMOTE PARK HEAT
To help engine warm-up in colder conditions, the LR-TDV6 3.0 litre can be preheated, either by using a one-day timer, programmable via the infotainment screen, or activated using the remote control key fob. Once the engine is up to temperature, any residual heat is channelled into the cabin for enhanced occupant comfort on entry into the vehicle.

simon wrote:

The internet.

CO2 is down to 244 (same as manual TDV6)

Yeah, but the spec sheet (at least the one I pulled of the LR press site) has NO manual option for the 3.0

Makes no sense to me. If you still sell a Manual 2.7 you have to build an interior to take a manual so no cost saving there. I can only assume they have no suitable manual gearbox for the 3.0 engine...

Seems crazy to me, as with a manual option they could claim the CO figures are from X to Y and X would be a lot lower as the manual would be more economical. Thought LR had to get their average CO2 down?

No upgrade plans for us, no attraction if its not more economical with lower road tax...