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Zilch
Member Since: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 131
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| Stockton Beach on Standard Tyres |
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Question from the Dark side, either this or next weekend i am going to have a run to Stockton with the Sport, it currently runs standard footwear which are the Goodyear Wrangler HP AW's (255/55/18's). Anyone done Stockton in their D3 with standard tyres, and how low could you safely go in terms of pressure , 16-20 PSI ?? without constantly throwing or knackering a tyre !!
Cheers
Jim another Pommie from the darkside
MY20 Defender P400 SE
MY103 RR Sport TDv6
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 9th May 2008 10:03 am |
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dukemasterpro
Member Since: 04 Feb 2007
Location: Sydney's Inner West
Posts: 54
 
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| Re: Stockton Beach on Standard Tyres |
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Zilch wrote:Question from the Dark side, either this or next weekend i am going to have a run to Stockton with the Sport, it currently runs standard footwear which are the Goodyear Wrangler HP AW's (255/55/18's). Anyone done Stockton in their D3 with standard tyres, and how low could you safely go in terms of pressure , 16-20 PSI ?? without constantly throwing or knackering a tyre !!
Cheers
Jim
You should be alright, did it 4 times in a D3 with 18"'s and same tyres without any probs even with a full complement of passengers. It's all down to how you drive and tyre pressure. Must the first time without tuition we did get stuck but after that it was all fine.
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| 9th May 2008 10:29 am |
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ianv
Member Since: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Bungendore, New South Wales
Posts: 338
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How low with the tyres?
I've run mine down to 8lb front 10lb rear to show off in sand, 15/18 is ok, if you run them around 18/20 you have a lot of leeway to drop them right down if you get stuck, std wranglers are pretty good in sand as they bag out nicely. Take care of the sidewalls though as they are thin, avoid pushing through scrub etc.
Have fun! TDV6
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| 9th May 2008 10:37 am |
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Zilch
Member Since: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 131
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DMP, Ian, thanks very much, Sand mode and 15/18 and a sensible approach, apart from the begging from fellow 4wder's to recover me now and then.. Cheers  best not ask for a snatch, i might get a smack, especially from the wife  another Pommie from the darkside
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MY103 RR Sport TDv6
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| 9th May 2008 10:49 am |
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WayneD
Member Since: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Sydney Darwin ,Singapore, USA, UK and now country NSW
Posts: 531
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You should have a great day. There are plenty of people to get you out of trouble. I ran my tyres at 18 psi but a coulpe of the guys had to go down to 12 psi to get up some of the hills. The range Rover Club is doing a trip there on the 31st May for beginners if you happen to be there that weekend tune in to UHF 19.
Standard tyres can be better than AT tyres as they tend not to build up a wall of sand in front. Take the road less traveled. Dual battery system.ORS drawers,LR cargo Barrier.ARB Bull bar,side protection bars,Mickey Thompson ATR's 17" rims, Rear wheel carrier, radiator guard TPMS Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch LR RAI Steel Rims , GME UHF, Off Road GPS, Llams (yet to be fitted)
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| 9th May 2008 12:36 pm |
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LeighW
D3 Decade
Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920
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Zilch, whilst I haven't had the experience of requiring DSC being turned off to improve traction there is a lot of discussion in other areas of this site. (Hint: Do a search on DSC) but to quote another poster with knowledge that is not toatally relevant (unless you strike snow at Stockton) but still pertinent...
opodden wrote:My advise on hills is: Go slow at first with DSC and snow/ ice setting on. If it doesn't work, reverse down, switch off DSC, switch to sand setting and try to carry more speed.
HTH, Leigh (envious of your chance to do Stockton) LeighW
The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)
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| 9th May 2008 12:54 pm |
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Drive cosy
Member Since: 10 Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 36
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The D3 is the first car with DSC I've driven on sand. One thing I will say is you can feel the momentum getting sucked right out with DSC on. Even the manual recommends DSC off.
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| 10th May 2008 1:32 am |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
Posts: 2050
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In my one and only visit to Stockton Beach, as part of a LR club training course, I carefully read my manual & was confused. I asked the instructor to read the relevant bit & advise me. He, also was confused by the wording.
In retrospect, I may have been better off with DSC disabled, but have no evidence to support this view.
Best Wishes,
Peter
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| 10th May 2008 7:22 am |
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Zilch
Member Since: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 131
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I have had to switch DSC off even on an incline with very loose mud and some small rocks to negotiate, the alternative was to sit there whilst the vehicle wound down the power, just because one or two wheels were getting hung up. Will most probably go with DSC off
Thanks All
Jim another Pommie from the darkside
MY20 Defender P400 SE
MY103 RR Sport TDv6
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| 10th May 2008 7:40 am |
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Drive cosy
Member Since: 10 Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 36
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The engine and gearbox are already working hard enough in sand. Why add brakes fighting the gearbox to the equation? 
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| 12th May 2008 12:12 am |
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hernan1304
Member Since: 28 Feb 2008
Location: Dubai
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Can't speak to your beach but I'm driving in the soft sands of the desert around Dubai on the standard 19" tyres with absolutely no problems. I take them down to 18psi - looks awful, like you're going to get a pinch flat as soon as you start moving, but I've had no issues so far and the tyres have actually done a fantastic job on sand.
I'd say turn DSC off - you can feel it killing your momentum, and it usually kicks in at the worst times (ie when you're in the softest sand trying not to get stuck, and/or when you ARE stuck and trying to get unstuck). Remember you still have traction control (which cannot be disabled) to save you if you try to do anything VERY stupid.
Make sure that when you're aired down you don't try to turn quickly at high(ish) speeds - that's the best way to drive off the rims. If you keep it in a straight line and make your steering smooth you'll be much better off.
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| 12th May 2008 4:46 am |
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ianv
Member Since: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Bungendore, New South Wales
Posts: 338
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Definetly turn DSC off, the TR sand mode lets extra wheel spin into the equation and this is not compatible with DSC being on. DSC does not like the wallowing motion that having wheel spin will generate in soft sand. Speaking from experience.  TDV6
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| 12th May 2008 8:49 am |
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Zilch
Member Since: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 131
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| One Further Question about Snatch Straps |
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Just one further question to ask whether the D3/RRS front and rear recovery points are strong enough to enable Snatch recovery if the vehicle becomes dug in and you have to find a friendly LR driver in the area. There seems to be some on here that say yes, and some that state no, they use more LR3 friendly recovery methods 
Thanks
Jim another Pommie from the darkside
MY20 Defender P400 SE
MY103 RR Sport TDv6
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| 13th May 2008 10:08 am |
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Tim in Scotland
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: All at sea
Posts: 496
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On this clip from Youtube the presenter states the chassis can take a 6t snatch load....................... so make sure that you pack a good spring balance to add to the rope to ensure you don't exceed the 6tonnes!
&feature=related Now a disillusioned new Land Rover buyer and have jumped ship to something less expensive and more reliable that hugs trees.... now driving a Mini Countryman PHEV as well as my trusty and brilliant 1996 Epsom Green Defender90 Tdi300
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| 13th May 2008 10:17 am |
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Zilch
Member Since: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 131
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Tim in Scotland wrote:so make sure that you pack a good spring balance to add to the rope to ensure you don't exceed the 6tonnes!
Tim i will pop down to the local fishing tackle shop, i am sure they will have a spring balance up to the required 6 ton limit another Pommie from the darkside
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MY103 RR Sport TDv6
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| 13th May 2008 10:52 am |
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