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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Aintree GreenDiscovery 3

Sorry I’m not understanding the words BJB and +ve

I was under the impression it was the negative side of the battery to test? But it’s in fact the positive?

+ve is the positive battery terminal?

BJB (battery terminal box) is this a module attached to the battery?

I don’t know what you mean by flat palm either.

Looking on YouTube etc can’t find anything to go off

Thanks
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Post #231821611th Dec 2022 8:37 pm
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It makes no difference if you monitor on the +ve (positive) or -ve (negative) side, the current draw will be the same on a closed circuit. It's physically easier to test on the +ve side.
BJB = battery junction box, the black fuse box next to the battery with the heavy red cable from the battery +ve going to it.

Look at the battery terminal, see if you can recognise anything that looks like a 'flat palm' - i.e. the connecting terminal that leads to the BJB.

I'm not of the 'youtube everything' generation - not an apology BTW, I prefer to use descriptive text.
  
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Ok thanks I’ll have a go tomorrow and I think I’m understanding you

I’ll video it and if I mess up then at least I can share the process and hopefully your kind self can watch and let me know where I funked up

Can you confirm the settings on my multimeter are correct but I just need to move the red wire to the 10a socket? Or move the dial off 10a to 2m or 200m?

If it works then I’ll leave the video on YouTube also for people to copy in the future
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To be honest, I'm not sure about your meter - if you want to measure in the 200mA range, then it appears correct but I'd normally expect the leads to be in the far right socket and the relevant current input socket, the guide lines hidden by your meter leads should show you the correct ones - some do use the 'Com' terminal but they're in the minority.
Using the 10A range will reduce accuracy so i'd recommend you use the 200mA range & connections.
  
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I think I understand the process now.

Is this multimeter setting view clearer and correct?

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Yep, that's correct. you might find the reading is the wrong way round (i.e. shows 0.040 rather than the expected -0.040) but it's the numbers that matter, not the presence or otherwise of the '-' symbol.
  
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Thank you so much mate
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Post #231822411th Dec 2022 9:14 pm
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Just looked again at your photo, I can't work out if the line over the 'COM' is a connection or a 'hop' I can't find any user manual for the meter online without the product reference, so if you have a user manual, I'd recommend checking that for the correct connection. If you get it wrong, the worst will be 'nothing' or a blown internal fuse.
  
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Hi flatlander

Does this help in any way , alas couldn’t see any model number


Diode test, battery test and continuity test with acoustic signal
With memory function (HOLD) and automatic power-off function
With removable holster
2 measuring tips with measuring cable
Large LC display
Incl. 9 V block battery
Measuring ranges:
DC voltage: 200 mV, 2 V, 20 V, 200 V, 300 V
AC voltage: 2 V, 20 V, 200 V, 300 V
AC: 2 mA, 20mA/10A, 200 mA
Direct current: 200 μA, 2 mA, 20 mA/10 A, 200 mA
Battery test: 1.5 V, 9 V
Resistance: 200 Ω, 2 kΩ, 20 kΩ, 200 kΩ, 2 MΩ, 20 MΩ

https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-digital-mult...9390763400



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cmb2020 wrote:
I think I understand the process now.

Is this multimeter setting view clearer and correct?



That's wrong, the black lead should go to common and then the red lead should go to the relevant connection.
  
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Here you go guys

I won’t do anything til you confirm as I worry about damaging internal electrics

So red in 10a and black in v? (Outer of the 4 sockets)?



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Does this look about right guys?

YouTube video for future reference
https://youtube.com/shorts/s0O-d33W9O8?feature=share

Tried to get the settings clear with the flash
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Update:

Gave up and booked garage. Come back as they were too busy,

Have been getting so much conflicting information via groups etc that I tried a few variations to no luck

See attached images of correct settings on multimeter

But one is red on positive battery terminal and black on the fuse box terminal as stated here BUT the alarm goes off when I remove the chunky cable from the fuse box
I also tried this with the wires reversed too

Secondly I tried on the negative battery terminal and body ground then remove negative chunky cable off terminal. No alarm went off but Again no joy.

Hoping someone can look and tell me where I’m going wrong this time please? And thanks




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So from the video, it was drawing about 60mA which is good enough to say there isn't a massive problem.
Therefore I could conclude:

1) There isn't a problem
2) The drain maybe in the thick cable to the starter/alternator
3) The drain maybe in the dual battery setup (which I assume wasn't connected).

If the alarm is now going off when you repeat, it means you have blown the fuse in the meter. (no surprise, you are overloading it). Try using the 10A terminal and COM which has a much bigger fuse. (and turn the dial clockwise 1 notch to 10A)

To avoid blowing fuses you need to ensure the car has shut down first, (as a minimum radio display off and (P) dash light off) but wait at least 15 mins really
  
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You can test the fuses in the meter by setting the meter to the setting that beeps when the probes are connected together.

Then connect the red V terminal to 10A and then mA terminals. If both beep, both fuses are ok. If one doesn't beep you have blown a glass fuse in the rear of the meter
  
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