The suggestion that those seen to be mentally vulnerable are being led towards these extreme acts has some credibility.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
3rd Oct 2022 1:19 pm
gstuart
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The suggestion that those seen to be mentally vulnerable are being led towards these extreme acts has some credibility.
Oh wow , that’s really going to stop private jets flying by setting urself on fire
3rd Oct 2022 3:51 pm
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Can’t be using a CO2 extinguisher on that, think of the harm to the environment, much better just to watch him burn I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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3rd Oct 2022 4:07 pm
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astonbuilder wrote:
Bit like the two people that pulled the 'heckler' back hurling verbal abuse (at Prince Andrew?) at the queens funeral profession have now been arrested and charged with physical assault (and I don't know whether force was reasonable or otherwise), you just feel that sometimes the 'wrong' people get the worst treatment.....
It's always a tricky thing when these cases come up. Grabbing someone leading to them fearing for their own safety falls under the definition of assault - actions that instil fear of attack are as much assault as actually hitting someone. And of course, the gobby git that started it all will be very happy to say "yes" to the pressing of charges.
But, yes, it does always feel that the wrong parties get their collars felt and the dicks that should be smacked get let off. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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Of course, if you do it correctly, you can do this with relatively low risk of injury - magicians and the like have been doing it for years, after all. Do it incorrectly, however, and you're going to need the help of a decent burn specialist.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
3rd Oct 2022 6:15 pm
Waldorf
Member Since: 09 Jan 2014
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That is the price you pay for living in a free and democratic country. Free speech is not just for things you agree with.
4th Oct 2022 7:29 am
RRSTDV8
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You make a good point Waldorf. But actions have consequences, even in a free society. Pouring human waste over a memorial to a well regarded person - especially one who has no link to the cause you are espousing - is not normally considered to be "free speech" but rather an act of vandalism.
If she had stood in front of the memorial and spoken her piece, that would have been fine. It's the vandalism that isn't fine. And of course, that's the point of the vandalism - it's the only way for them to make themselves visible because they're a small group of extremists with little media presence otherwise.
As with all extremist measures to be heard, it will actually work against their cause and the only result will be her receiving some form of criminal record.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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4th Oct 2022 7:48 am
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
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Makes one wonder what she was capable of if she had continued her studying and become a doctor?- so a little bit of good may have come out of her actions.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
I'm lost as to why she had to travel from Wales to pick on the Tom Moore statue ... are there no Welsh monuments that would get her the attention she wanted?
Or would the Welsh have been less restrained than the folks in Derbyshire and kicked a bit more of her $h1t out of her?.
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I think a few may be missing the point of the Twitter thread I posted yesterday. These two have shown signs of mental health issues and then been marginalised/indoctrinated by the sociopaths behind this campaign.
It's a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of the original group, each division resulting in the most radicalised shrinking their echo chamber until no act seems unreasonable. They then target those who have been seen to be struggling as the patsy for "delivering the message".
Both the protesters featured here need help, and the folk behind it need taking down.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
I just watched a video on FB where Maddie sets herself alight ... apologies if it's been linked already, and I can't replicate the link for some reason... but it does look to support your view she has mental health issues. She seems surprised that it's painful !!!.
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4th Oct 2022 8:35 am
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Member Since: 22 May 2020
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It’s obscene, but if she wanted publicity, she got it and you know what they say about publicity.
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