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Do you really have to remove the turbo to replace the CPS?
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syncmaster710n14
 


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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Unknown ColourDiscovery 3
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So, made a start on this today. My god it's an awkward job!

I have managed to remove all the bolts from the turbo bracket except for the 2 that connect to the middle of the turbo, one of these I can access from the wheel well (rusty one, bottom right of picture), but the one closest to the engine is behind the oil drain pipe, how do you get to this bolt?

  
Post #230573327th Aug 2022 10:06 pm
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Ruarz
 


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You should be able to get on it with a socket, u/j and a few extensions by going up through the gap between the radiator and front diff. Awkward but the only way I found.
  
Post #230577028th Aug 2022 10:27 am
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syncmaster710n14
 


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Thanks for the help, I'll give that a go tomorrow.

I'am Letting the bolts soak in WD40.
  
Post #230577328th Aug 2022 10:57 am
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iIRC I used a swivel-head ratchet spanner from roughly where you're taking the photo from.
  
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syncmaster710n14
 


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6 hours later, bolt still in!

So I managed to get the bolt nearest the wheel out, it was very tight, broke a ratchet spanner in the process. Rolling Eyes

However that bolt nearest the engine...I have spent most of the day working on it and cannot get it out, there just isn't enough room. I tried used extension and UJs from the front, but the oil pipe in front of the bolt stops me getting a socket on straight. If the bolt wasn't so tight I could probably do it, I have given it another soak with WD40 and will leave it for a while.

You guys must have some sort of Jedi mind force to get those bolts out! Laughing

May end up putting it back together and taking it to a garage. I hate being defeated by a job but unless the WD40 loosens it, I don't see how i can get it out.
  
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To be fair, when I was doing these, the vehicles were somewhat younger and less likely to be corroded in place so much - do you have / can you get a crowsfoot open socket on it? that will at least give you the ability to move the connection point away from the oil return, or even can you remove the oil return pipe? it should mean a new gasket but as it's not under pressure, a bit of black sealer should be OK...[/i]
  
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syncmaster710n14
 


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Thanks for the suggestion, I am going to order a 10mm crowfoot socket and see if i can get it on, I wont have time to look at it till Saturday, but I will spray it with WD40 everyday this week to try loosen it.

I did think about removing the oil drain, and I may do yet..... The gasket is only 99p on eBay, so i have ordered one just in case.
  
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syncmaster710n14
 


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DONE!

Hi All

Just letting you know I managed to complete this job, it was a b****d but I have done it. That bolt on the turbo closest to the engine ended up snapping off. Shocked but figure the turbo can live without one bolt, there plenty of other stuff holding it in place.

Thanks Flatlander and everyone else who advised on this.

Just a few bits of advice from me to anyone else who ends up attempting this:
1. remove the front prop shaft, if you jack the transfer box up a little you can squeeze it out. This give significantly better access.
2. Spray the bolts with penetrating oil well before starting the job.
3. You need a 10mm socket with a built in UJ for the front turbo support bolt closest to the engine.
3. Fitting the new sensor is very fiddly, I ended up using an endoscope camera sat on top the bottom turbo oil pipe looking into the hole where the sensor goes. Then I used a pair of locking hemostats to hold the end of the sensor and maneuver it into place. Like this:



Putting it all back together was easier than taking it apart. Unfortunately it didn't solve my problem with the engine randomly dying, so guess back to the drawing board....
  
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Flatlander
 


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Well done! sorry to hear all was in vain though, those 'medical pliers' Wink are a good call, I might invest in some on my next SP Services order...
  
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syncmaster710n14
 


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Hemostats (medical pliers) are really handy, especially the locking kind as you can use them to clamp off hoses and grip things in tight places.
  
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Hardware
 


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those 'medical pliers' are a good call


I have a pair ... they are extremely knackered from being used many, many times. And the thing is, I have no idea how/when I acquired them. Did share a house with some dentists once though, so might have been then.
  
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Flatlander
 


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I used to have some in my kit, that was 20 years ago in a very different job (and country!) to the one I'm in now - never thought of using them across trades!
  
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