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Hobgoblin
Member Since: 15 Nov 2007
Location: As always, in the sh*t, it's only the depth that varies
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Found out an interesting one on LRE this morning, works both in forward and reverse, this is effectively for failed hill climbs in an auto, stop the vehicle on a steep slope, up hill going forward and press the brake, then press it harder leaving the vehicle in D, this applies the brakes and keeps them on until the next driver input. So if you are going down hill, stop the vehicle and select Reverse and back up a little then apply the footbake, then press harder, leaving in Reverse, take foot off the pedal and the vehicle will stay there with the brakes applied until you press the brake and select D to carry on your way. I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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 4th Apr 2008 1:03 pm |
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Getafix
Member Since: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Hobgoblin - motor on, or motor off??  <*(((<<
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| 4th Apr 2008 1:28 pm |
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evo8
Member Since: 29 Jan 2008
Location: Zalesie
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I noticed the same behaviour - that it applies some kind of brakes automatically when in D - doesnot alow the car to start rolling back. The same happens when in Reverse trying to go up to hill backwards - again doesnot let the car roll forward down the slope. However - I just haven't tried on more than 15 deg slopes  2013 D4 TDV6 S; Baltic Blue; IID Tool BT
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| 4th Apr 2008 2:15 pm |
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Getafix
Member Since: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
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nup, didn't work for me  <*(((<<
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| 5th Apr 2008 4:39 am |
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Hobgoblin
Member Since: 15 Nov 2007
Location: As always, in the sh*t, it's only the depth that varies
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Getafix,
This was done in forward and reverse on a slope of 35 - 40 degrees, this was in low range in mud rut setting, have not tried it in High range general setting. I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| 5th Apr 2008 9:12 am |
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Getafix
Member Since: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Got it. Thanks for that, will play  <*(((<<
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| 5th Apr 2008 1:01 pm |
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jwest
Member Since: 09 Jun 2006
Location: USA
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Hobgoblin wrote:Getafix,
This was done in forward and reverse on a slope of 35 - 40 degrees, this was in low range in mud rut setting, have not tried it in High range general setting.
My avatar and gallery shot is the exact above strategy. I was alone, got out, shot this and then reversed up the hill.
Without having it in REV, the silly rear brake just locks the back wheels and it slid down the hill as the front wheels were not "helping" in any of the braking traction.
REV, gave force to all wheels against the slope and the epb held it in place. I never "pushed harder" on the foot brake though any more than normal amount to stop from sliding down. This was easily 35 degrees as photo is kind of distorted - I was trying for accurate slope photo but wide angle flattened it a bit. 96 Disco I, 210,000 miles - still going strong
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| 15th Apr 2008 10:37 pm |
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hernan1304
Member Since: 28 Feb 2008
Location: Dubai
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Interesting technique with the brakes in D or R - what is it that actually holds the D3 in that situation? Is the car actually accelerating up the hill and holding with the engine and transmission? I've never tried this myself, and am currently in the office so finding a slope to try this on is a bit of a challenge at the moment...
I do have a great reason for not wanting to park the Disco on level ground and climb the hill to investigate... have you ever climbed a sand dune on foot? Ready for a nap by the time you get to the top! so climbing most of the way with the D3 and then getting out to investigate is appealing. What I've done in the past is put the D3 in park and then engage the EPB, in that order. It held. However, will try your suggestions of putting the EPB on before engaging Park.
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| 16th Apr 2008 10:40 am |
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Hobgoblin
Member Since: 15 Nov 2007
Location: As always, in the sh*t, it's only the depth that varies
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I was informed that the vehicle 'locks the brakes on' therefore it is held by all 4 wheels. I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| 16th Apr 2008 1:40 pm |
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hernan1304
Member Since: 28 Feb 2008
Location: Dubai
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Very cool... such a leap of faith though! Goes against every instinct, to just leave the car in Drive facing uphill!!  Could I also engage the EPB for some added peace of mind, or would this cancel the four-wheel braking thing?
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| 16th Apr 2008 4:04 pm |
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Hobgoblin
Member Since: 15 Nov 2007
Location: As always, in the sh*t, it's only the depth that varies
Posts: 1445
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Not sure hernan, haven't tried that one, you could let us know though  I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| 16th Apr 2008 4:08 pm |
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stapldm
Member Since: 11 Sep 2006
Location: Swine Town
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Tried this whilst in a queue heading up a car park ramp. In Drive, no brakes, crept backwards quite quickly. Pressed brake pedal hard and let go; still slowly crept back but almost stationary. This was in High range. Definitely some hardware magic going on there somewhere.
Nice tip, thanks Dr. Ian Malcolm:
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Transgenic tomato anyone?
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| 16th Apr 2008 8:37 pm |
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mobyone
Member Since: 23 Dec 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Has anyone checked the manual or LR to see if this is in fact a feature and should be used like this?
As stated a huge leap of faith to walk away from vehicle in this situation....  What's the point.... it all comes out in the wash anyway!
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| 16th Apr 2008 11:32 pm |
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Fish
Member Since: 21 Oct 2007
Location: Ashbourne, Derbyshire
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I'll give Landrover a call as when I was trying mine out up a V steep hill in low mud and rut I think I lost traction and couldn't get any higher up. I applied brakes changed to Reverse and slowly let off the brakes to go back down. the car wouldn't move. Feet off brakes and clutch in it was rock solid. Tried playing with the EPB nothing in the end after a panic I droved against the brakes and they released.
I do need to understand it more as I'm used to NON electronic driving. i don't even use HDC.
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| 17th Apr 2008 7:49 am |
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