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Oil pump and cambelt swap.
I'm just in the middle of a 'big' service on my D3. It's a 2005 with 165k on the clock, so not really of that much value.
It was overdue on age for cambelt, so with funds been low due to working in hospitality, I decided to have a go myself...
I've got it stripped down at the moment, when I start putting back together is it advisable to use Threadloc or similar on oil pump bolts, belt tensioner, crank pulley bolt etc ?
Has anyone fitted the crankshaft oil seal without the special tools, unfortunately can't really run to them at the moment ?
Thanks very much for help and advice
8th Jun 2021 9:43 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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Thread lock not required.
You do need to spend money on a genuine seal as others fall out.
You can use other objects to push the seal in evenly
8th Jun 2021 11:07 pm
garrycol
Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
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Have you put in a new oil pump - a definite requirement even for the very early engines.
9th Jun 2021 4:45 am
D1SCD
Member Since: 13 Feb 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 439
Thanks for the help..
I was hoping I could use a big socket and the old crank bolt to pull the seal in, if that's possible.
Yes I bought full belt kit from AF including the pump
9th Jun 2021 7:24 am
Pete K
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Location: GL
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I used a big socket and tapped on the end until it stops moving. Which is about 2mm counter sunk
9th Jun 2021 8:46 am
D1SCD
Member Since: 13 Feb 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
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Finally got to putting back together - although not going too well at the moment.
I've lightly greased the rubber seals, come to put pump on and it stops about 10mm short, I just can't get it to go all the way home
Should I be lining the flats on the pump up with the flats on the crank (I've tried, but they may not be exactly right) ?
It seems to get to the point of the plastic insert, and wont go any further - I don't want to force and damage it..
10th Jun 2021 6:47 pm
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
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Yes you need to line them up, you can move the centre of the pump around slightly with your fingers to get it to engage.
When fitted and all the bolts are tightened clean the crank and oil pump with something like brake cleaner to remove any grease before fitting the crank seal.
Carefully engage the seal on the end of the crank and check the back of the seal to make sure the lip is sealing correctly on the crank before sliding it down to the pump. Its easy for the seal to get creased due to its design.Andrew
D3 2.7tdv6 2005
D4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial died and gone to LR heaven
D5 3.0 SDV6 HSE
10th Jun 2021 7:05 pm
D1SCD
Member Since: 13 Feb 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 439
Forgot to prime oil pump !!
Nearly got put back together after oil pump changed, and just realised I forgot to prime the new pump !!
Question is, do I need to dismantle it all again and order another seal or will it be OK to start it dry ?
12th Jun 2021 12:19 pm
Disco_Mikey
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Member Since: 13 Feb 2013
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Thank you
Just what I wanted to hear, I wasn't looking forward to doing it all again..
12th Jun 2021 12:38 pm
aja4x4
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Location: Westbury
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Just remove the filter and pour the oil down the centre tubeAndrew
D3 2.7tdv6 2005
D4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial died and gone to LR heaven
D5 3.0 SDV6 HSE
12th Jun 2021 1:02 pm
D1SCD
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Location: North Yorkshire
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Sorry, but could you explain what this does ?
12th Jun 2021 1:14 pm
D1SCD
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Location: North Yorkshire
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Anyone thinking of changing oil pump.
I'm just in the middle of changing oil pump - I bought the belt / pump kit from forum sponsors AdvancedFactors (who I would highly recommend)
What I did was bought two crankshaft seals, one genuine, and one Victor Reinz. I guess the Reinz would be quite capable of the job, but I just preferred genuine.
The reason for buying the Reinz seal.. It comes with a really useful installation tool, which in my opinion made an tricky job so much easier (for an amateur like me)
12th Jun 2021 2:03 pm
Pete K
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Location: GL
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Pours oil into the pump
But it’s no necessary.
12th Jun 2021 2:46 pm
motorworks
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Can you get some oil into the pump via the oil filter housing?
Question already answered Chris
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or will it be OK to start it dry ?
