Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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Having had more than a couple of years to get used to them now, it’s not as stand out ugly as it once was but, to my eyes and now the novelty/shock has worn off, it now looks more like a product of a distant era.
The front end reminds me of the Bedford Astramax van that drove from ‘86-‘88 (though the Astramax was better looking), while the back looks more like the rear ends of the MkIII Astras that our service technicians were issued with in the mid-late 90’s.
Perhaps it’s best to tune the radio to 1053/1089, listen to Steve Wright in the Afternoon and enjoy the nostalgia trip!   2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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I would still have one over the DS. In fact I would’ve given my right arm to have one as a loaner rather than the DS I was supplied. When I seen it I just 
But hopefully next year LR will improve the DS as it switches to the new PTA platform to allow for mild hybrid and PHEV capabilities. LR say it will be more rugged inside and out to distance itself from the Range Rover line up and ride comfort will be improved. We will see. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 28th Jul 2018 1:42 pm |
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nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
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Well, I never thought that I’d be saying the following! I picked up our 2016 D4 Landmark today after four weeks, and crikey, it did feel a heavy, cumbersome beast after the D5!
Yes, the seats in the Landmark are much more comfortable in both the front and rear than in the poverty spec D5, and that awful flat spot in the D5, I just wouldn’t be able to live with, but from what others have said, it could well just be that car.
The D5 was mush more nimble and probably more ‘fun’ to drive. The big question though, would I buy one. No.
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| 10th Aug 2018 6:29 pm |
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11412
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J77 wrote:switches to the new PTA platform to allow for mild hybrid and PHEV capabilities
MLA Disco 5 HSE Lux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyiqaJrmMU
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| 13th Aug 2018 6:10 am |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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DS switches to PTA. MLA is a long way of for Evoque and DS, new Defender will be the first car on MLA 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 13th Aug 2018 12:00 pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
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DiscoStu wrote:J77 wrote:switches to the new PTA platform to allow for mild hybrid and PHEV capabilities
MLA
Whats MLA ? In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 13th Aug 2018 2:37 pm |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978
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Modular Longitudinal Platform 
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| 13th Aug 2018 3:05 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Now I’ve got a 2018MY D5 V6 HSE loaner for a few days; joy is unconfined! 
While the car might be the usual D5 fodder, it’s nice to drive with that wonderful V6 again  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 22nd Aug 2018 5:28 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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If I was to go back to a D5 I won’t be touching the 3.0. The early service warnings and LRs refusal to acknowledge it as a fault and instead blame “driving style” was the reason my D5 went.
Sorry LR I’ve had 7 previous LRs with DPFs and yet to have an issue, my EU6 D4 was serviced at a year old with no service warnings and still had 11,000 miles of AdBlue left. Your blame the customer attitude don’t wash  23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 22nd Aug 2018 6:00 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Red Merle wrote:Now I’ve got a 2018MY D5 V6 HSE loaner for a few days; joy is unconfined!
While the car might be the usual D5 fodder, it’s nice to drive with that wonderful V6 again
The twin turbo version? If such a thing is even available, I'm not up to speed on the new LR engines.
I love the EU6 3.0 SDV6 in my D4 though.  2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 22nd Aug 2018 6:27 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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I had heard, second hand, that the new 306 bhp engine was twin turbo, but I can’t find concrete proof of it as no current brochures are available.
I see that the single turbo TDV6 in the 2017 MY Full Full has finally been replaced with the proper, twin turbo, 275 bhp SDV6 in the 2018MY Full Fat, so it’s looking likely
J77: I wasn’t making any comment on reliability, I was just enjoying driving it Perhaps we need to check through the user manual to see what “driving style” LR recommends? I’m sure we’d all like to know if we’ve been doing it wrong all of these years 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 22nd Aug 2018 7:28 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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We can’t do low miles and we can’t do high miles, so I think somewhere in between. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 22nd Aug 2018 8:41 pm |
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Dannyson
Member Since: 14 Oct 2014
Location: Newquay, Cornwall
Posts: 820
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According to the latest 'Which' magazine report Car Guide - once again all LR products come out as a 'Don't Buy' from what I have read. Third from bottom of the 'reliability index' - only Chevrolet and Saab are worse. I think we all know this 2016MY Discovery HSE - Black
2009MY Toyota Land Cruiser (Lc4) - Black
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| 22nd Aug 2018 9:13 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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3rd that ain’t bad, I had them bottom.
I love my Velar but there is now more choice than ever before at half the price, I would think harder before buying another. If LR could solve the software issues then most of the customers issue would solved. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 22nd Aug 2018 9:20 pm |
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