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LT

Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto Santorini Black

Still no split tailgate though

2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)

17th Apr 2018 2:57 pm

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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LT wrote:
I've vague memories of reading similar thoughts about the "modern" P38 Range Rover. Probably in the letters section of Autocar.
24 years on, I still prefer the design of the Classic Rangie. I'm certain I'll still feel the same about the D3/4 and the D5 long into the future. Each to their own though.

I prefer the look of the P38 to the Classic. I prefer the P38 to the L322 too, I think, in the looks department at least. As you say, each to their own.

In terms of looks, the current breed of LRs would be, in order of styling preference for me: FFRR, Velar, RRS, DS, Evoque, D5. I don't understand LR's thought process - the FFRR - RRS - Velar have an obvious common family feel to them as befits the common bonnet badging. The DS and the D5 don't have a common family feel even though they share bonnet badging. If the D5 had just been a bigger DS, stylistically, it would probably have found more favour.

Anyway, what do I know - I don't where cravats, after all. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"

17th Apr 2018 4:31 pm

J77

Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
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Mods, he’s made a typo, he’s put the D5 bottom

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17th Apr 2018 4:44 pm

KTM Gordo

Member Since: 18 Jul 2017
Location: St Neots
Posts: 109

2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Yulong White

LT wrote:
Still no split tailgate though

I still hanker after the original side-opening tailgate, which is what a 'proper' Discovery ought to have: original and best

Gordon

2016 D4 Landmark, Yulong White, SDV6, Ex-JLR Fleet
2013 D4 HSE (Gone! Sold within the forum)

17th Apr 2018 5:55 pm

KTM Gordo

Member Since: 18 Jul 2017
Location: St Neots
Posts: 109

RRSTDV8 wrote:
I don't understand LR's thought process - the FFRR - RRS - Velar have an obvious common family feel to them as befits the common bonnet badging. The DS and the D5 don't have a common family feel even though they share bonnet badging. If the D5 had just been a bigger DS, stylistically, it would probably have found more favour.

Apart from the vestigial step in the D5's roof, the silhouette of the DS and D5 is very similar - both based on the Discovery Vision concept car.

...although the rear view of the DS is far superior to that of the D5 IMHO Gordon

2016 D4 Landmark, Yulong White, SDV6, Ex-JLR Fleet
2013 D4 HSE (Gone! Sold within the forum)

17th Apr 2018 5:58 pm

Red Merle

Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441

DG wrote:
Yep I am planning a full review after 3 months ...but you have had yours for what must be a year now...if you could let us know the good and bad points about the FFRR then that would be appreciated ....I'm pretty sure there will be some interested enough to focus only on the bad points

Now that’s actually quite funny!

2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
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17th Apr 2018 6:33 pm

RRSTDV8

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Location: Here
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KTM Gordo wrote:
RRSTDV8 wrote:
I don't understand LR's thought process - the FFRR - RRS - Velar have an obvious common family feel to them as befits the common bonnet badging. The DS and the D5 don't have a common family feel even though they share bonnet badging. If the D5 had just been a bigger DS, stylistically, it would probably have found more favour.

Apart from the vestigial step in the D5's roof, the silhouette of the DS and D5 is very similar - both based on the Discovery Vision concept car.

...although the rear view of the DS is far superior to that of the D5 IMHO

Now there's a funny thing. I read your post and then went and looked at images of the two. Side by side, I can see the similarities, as you suggest, but in isolation I'd never noticed that they were so similar. I'm not sure that says a lot for LR's "Discovery family" styling, to be honest.

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Whatever, I definitely think the DS is the better looking of the two. I'm aware that the D5's size makes it difficult to style (in the new "Discovery family" style) however. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"

17th Apr 2018 7:46 pm

Canburne

Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
Posts: 2037

2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Aintree Green

KTM Gordo wrote:

I still hanker after the original side-opening tailgate, which is what a 'proper' Discovery ought to have: original and best

It was probably the worst design feature of the Discovery - it was apalling .
"the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings....the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" Winston Churchill

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18th Apr 2018 8:11 am

LT

Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866

One of the reasons why I never had a D1/2, was because I couldn't access the boot when parked at home. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)

18th Apr 2018 9:42 am

LT

Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Double post. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)

18th Apr 2018 9:43 am

Red Merle

Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441

KTM Gordo wrote:
LT wrote:
Still no split tailgate though

I still hanker after the original side-opening tailgate, which is what a 'proper' Discovery ought to have: original and best

As a matter of interest, what were the benefits? 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)

18th Apr 2018 12:09 pm

LT

Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866

IMO, the only possible benefit, to some, was having the spare wheel fitted to the rear door. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)

18th Apr 2018 3:10 pm

J77

Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272

I can’t see much benefits to it other than the above. The D5 set up ain’t perfect but at least provides good shelter. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green

18th Apr 2018 3:17 pm

JMack

Member Since: 02 Aug 2014
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 1517

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial Manual Java Black

Red Merle wrote:
KTM Gordo wrote:
LT wrote:
Still no split tailgate though

I still hanker after the original side-opening tailgate, which is what a 'proper' Discovery ought to have: original and best

As a matter of interest, what were the benefits?

Not having the lower tailgate in the way when trying to get something out of the far away parts of the boot.

18th Apr 2018 3:40 pm

LT

Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866

Ah yes, I hadn't thought about that. Never been an issue for me.

2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)

18th Apr 2018 3:43 pm