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RRSTDV8 wrote:
If a car did everything you wanted it to do but was ugly, would you go and buy something prettier but that didn't do what you wanted it to do?
No... but if you have two cars that both do want you want... and one is ugly 2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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13th Apr 2017 9:43 am
d-9
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Red Merle wrote:
It did also allow for the diagonal split in the rear tailgate, which gave us the split depth lower door and the extra deep window on the opposite side.
Why is the diagonal split an advantage, over a normal split?2008 TDV8 Sport HSE
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13th Apr 2017 9:58 am
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It allows you to reach into the car for loading/unloading. 2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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And get a line of dust on your shirt every time you do it.
Or is that just me? I'm a slow learner...
13th Apr 2017 10:14 am
d-9
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crews control wrote:
It allows you to reach into the car for loading/unloading.
Which you would be able to do more easily if it was a straight opening at the lower level?2008 TDV8 Sport HSE
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13th Apr 2017 10:16 am
adam
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Or a design carry over from the D2 that allowed a mount for the spare?
Cant see any other benefit TBH
13th Apr 2017 10:17 am
Red Merle
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d-9 wrote:
Red Merle wrote:
It did also allow for the diagonal split in the rear tailgate, which gave us the split depth lower door and the extra deep window on the opposite side.
Why is the diagonal split an advantage, over a normal split?
Because it gives you a choice of depths to work with.
There's a long side for bulky goods and a narrow side for when you need to reach into the depths of the boot. If you sit on the short side, you not only get shelter from the larger upper tailgate, but a dog can sit properly alongside you, or you've got a decent place to rest your tea. If you grab something to sit on and use the lower tailgate as an "in the field" laptop supporting desk, you get a proper, wrap around desk too!
13th Apr 2017 12:26 pm
Red Merle
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d-9 wrote:
crews control wrote:
It allows you to reach into the car for loading/unloading.
Which you would be able to do more easily if it was a straight opening at the lower level?
That'll be a standard estate car. I wouldn't go back there through choice though.
13th Apr 2017 12:31 pm
tayaste
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Well i never knew all those reasons for the wonky tailgate. I'll have to get a dog now.
13th Apr 2017 2:10 pm
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13th Apr 2017 3:29 pm
RRSTDV8
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It was a shame when LR took the opening glass section off the RRS1 during the facelift. I use the opening glass occasionally and it is useful. Later RRS1 and the RRS2 just have a single opening tailgate. The D5 was always going to get the same treatment and it was no great surprise.
Perhaps the FFRR has the split tailgate because the "Designer Munchkin" (McGovern) wants everyone to aspire to FFRRs...Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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13th Apr 2017 5:22 pm
Red Merle
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I didn't realise that had been dropped so early.
I don't believe that McGovern thinks that way. He has a certain style he likes to pursue and practical considerations only get in the way of building what he sees as his ideal, stylish, Land Rover / Range Rover. Split tailgates mean that the back ends of cars have to be flat (to allow for the lower hinge to work - check the back of a current FFRR), opening rear door windows restrict curves and bonded glass becomes no longer an option, comfortable stadium seating and good rear passenger headroom require high roof lines - all the way to the very back.
Here's a crystal ball moment: McG will put a standard tailgate on the next generation of FFRR (if he thinks he will get away with it - I don't think there'll be any doubt in his mind, all he needs to do is call it "dated") and it will look like an evolution of the Velar. It will have another electric plank in the boot, it will just be more elaborate.
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13th Apr 2017 6:20 pm
Nikki
Member Since: 10 Mar 2015
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Red Merle wrote:
It did also allow for the diagonal split in the rear tailgate, which gave us the split depth lower door and the extra deep window on the opposite side.
Most useful feature at the back of a 4x4, made the offset number plate to comply with standards rules.
14th Apr 2017 12:39 am
astonbuilder
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The current design looks like a 'hmmm' type emoji to me. It's just not offset 'enough' and not helped by being a single line plate. Keep looking at it but it's not growing on me
People with better paintshop skills than me I'm sure but if (likely) I order one it'll be getting a square plate fitted - think a standard plate fits but if not an 'import' sized plate would fit
14th Apr 2017 8:05 am
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Poor LR can't win !! Lots of complaints it looks the same as everything else, but they do something different with the number plate to show it's roots and that's wrong too !!Velar MY18 D180 S Narvik
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