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50%
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Given all the recent developments about diesel engines, if you were considering buying a new D5 would you go for the TD6 Diesel or the Si6 Petrol engine ?
Annual mileage is around 3,000 mostly towing a caravan. Once bought, it would be for the long term ie 10 years. The car is mainly used for towing, so tends to sit unused between caravan trips every couple of weeks.
Tried to add a poll but didn't work, could a moderator add one for me please ?
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 27th Feb 2017 3:30 pm |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
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On that low a mileage I'd go petrol then you don't have to worry about DPF clogging 
You also don't need to worry about the diesel witch-hunt either  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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| 27th Feb 2017 3:42 pm |
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Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
  
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A lot of money to be sat around though!
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| 27th Feb 2017 3:47 pm |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
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Very true Ja92mie but sometimes if you can afford it you have to remember you only live once
Back in 2009 I bought a MY10 RRS to pull a new Elddis Twin Axle and had about £65k sitting on the drive most of the time while I drove SWMBOs FL1 
I said I'd keep them 10 years and I looked at the cost of a nice motorhome sitting on the drive/cycling when pitched or the RRS for Towing/driving while pitched/Eating out/Sunday drives and figured it was best option as we took 12 weeks a year holiday back then 8)
Unfortunately the RRS was a lemon, got damaged by dealer 3rd service and the van leaked after 3 years so I started again with a MY13 RRS and another new van and this time ended up with £78k standing on the drive although I recouped some of the cost from the previous outfit and I sold SWMBOs FL1 so we used the RRS more 
Everything was perfect for a couple of years of my 10 year plan but then swmbo decided she hated vanning and saw a house she loved so both had to go - women 
Would I do it again - hell yeah but the rate LRs are going up it might be difficult  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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| 27th Feb 2017 4:08 pm |
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Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
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Very true! I do agree with the "you only live once" saying!
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| 27th Feb 2017 4:09 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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You certainly do 'only live once' and nobody knows how long that life's going to be  Anyone else have any thoughts on the subject?
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:04 pm |
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Snowman
Member Since: 06 Aug 2016
Location: Holmfirth
Posts: 317
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I think I would employ someone to deliver my caravan for me and arrive in a Ferrari.
But I would buy a petrol version , but possibly a 5.0sc FFRR. Andy.
Series 3 SWB Wagon OEC614Y sold
Discovery 1 50th Anniversary Edition S882 BMA sold
Freelander TD4 ES Y615 YEC sold
Freelander TD4 Kalahari NX53 EVH sold
D2 TD5 XS 2003 YF03 WVW sold
D3 TDV6 2008 SE
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:05 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Never had any interest in sports cars
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:07 pm |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Hopefully penalties for having a diesel will be progressive rather than all encompassing so a Euro6 engine should be 'safe' for a few years yet....even if there were to be a penalty you have to weigh that up against fuel cost differentials. That said, if they had a wider range of petrols then I would be tempted 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:28 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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My concern is that the government will decide that the best way to tackle the diesel issue is by increasing the duty on diesel fuel in future budgets and within a couple of years the price of diesel will skyrocket, thereby making it cheaper to run a petrol D5.
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:34 pm |
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waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2929
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But you'lll only be buying 100 gallons or so a year?
Go for the vehicle which best suits your needs - trying to base a decision on future government policy is a gamble to put it mildly. Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:39 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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B16 KJR wrote:My concern is that the government will decide that the best way to tackle the diesel issue is by increasing the duty on diesel fuel in future budgets and within a couple of years the price of diesel will skyrocket, thereby making it cheaper to run a petrol D5.
Well that is a fair possibility though the talk in the smoke , where the issue is perhaps the most focused at the mo, seems to be upon the age of the vehicle. Maybe though it will end up being a two pronged attack? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:41 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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That's what I 'm concerned about, if they decide to launch an all out war against diesel, does it make sense to buy one now, when for an extra £1500, you can get the petrol version. If diesel engines are now going to be stigmatised, that would have a dramatic effect on the future value of the vehicle. As I only do 3k a year it's not just about the cost of the fuel it's about the whole experience of buying a new diesel car, when a petrol version is available.
DG, any chance of adding a poll to this, as I would really like to see how other forum members would decide given the choice.
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| 27th Feb 2017 9:53 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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Done Kenny 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 27th Feb 2017 10:01 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Thank you
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