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Great lights, would love to get some for my for my sprinter, anyone got any ideas of how to mount them.
  
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DiscoStu wrote:
Jads777 wrote:
I found the towbar electrics easy to install but my DIY skills around the house tend to involve vast quantities of Blutack, No More Nails and beer. Is DIY installation for the average forum member realistic?


I'll post some pics of my rack mounts later, as I've been asked by a couple of other people anyway. The wiring's not difficult (says the electrician Wink), but TFC's wiring mine up for me Rolling Eyes My wiring will be routed up via the rear door, with a plug/socket by the rear pillar so that the rack can be removed with the wiring out of sight. I'll get pics of that too.


Excellent, thanks.
  
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Can anyone provide a link to these regs?



ECE type regs on road legal filament lamps here Wink

http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/r037r4e.pdf
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any chance of a summary DG, lost the will to live on p2...
 and theeeeennn......???  
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Basically the UN/ECE dictate all type approval for all aspects vehicle manufacturing....this little document Shocked stipulates the

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ADOPTION OF UNIFORM TECHNICAL PRESCRIPTIONS FOR WHEELED VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT AND PARTS WHICH CAN BE FITTED AND/OR BE USED ON WHEELED VEHICLES AND THE CONDITIONS FOR RECIPROCAL RECOGNITION OF APPROVALS GRANTED ON THE BASIS OF THESE PRESCRIPTIONS


This must therefore be integral to the UK type approval regs which then coincide with UK construction and use regs




....I think Big Cry
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ADOPTION OF UNIFORM TECHNICAL PRESCRIPTIONS FOR WHEELED VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT AND PARTS WHICH CAN BE FITTED AND/OR BE USED ON WHEELED VEHICLES AND THE CONDITIONS FOR RECIPROCAL RECOGNITION OF APPROVALS GRANTED ON THE BASIS OF THESE PRESCRIPTIONS


Holy Censored Thud
  
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Iain, I quite like the worklight. The non permanent with the cig lighter would be ideal for me.
  
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If you go down to page 37 for example it details the exact specification of a H7 filament unit

In a nutshell ...the wattage spec for legal on road use is max. 55w for a single filament or 60 watt for a dual filament Wink
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Or if you go for 24v you can have 75Watt Confused

Confused Really not sure UN regs count here Confused

If there were a limit, why isn't it mentioned in our regs?


Read this - http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_7.htm#nsch2


Height -
Quote:
(4c) c) Vertical-


(i) Maximum height above the ground-


(A) Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B), (C) or (D):
1500 mm or, if the structure of the vehicle makes this impracticable, 2100 mm



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8. Wattage:
No requirement
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There not just UN regs, they are applied ECE regs, the UN aspect is because some other countries around the world have also signed up to them Wink

http://tinyurl.com/2qk6dr

http://www.crash-network.com/Regulations/E...tions.html

http://www.vca.gov.uk/additional/files/leg...natry2.pdf


...as you can see the UK is a signatory ...the Lighting regs percee don't specify wattage but they appear to be overridden by the construction and use implications of the ECE regs

No? Confused
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You tell me - I was the one asking for clarification Wink

Everything in our regs says no limit on wattage, but then covers this by saying lamps must not dazzle other road users. Whether or not foreign regs cover our sovereign state, I wouldn't know Evil or Very Mad
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so we're really down to a risk thing then on the over 55w ones? so do the plod confiscate your bulbs if they are over the limit or issue them with shades Shocked if you're caught using them on the Queens's highway? I've got visions of the peeps in blue with lightmeters in their hands....
 and theeeeennn......???  
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Big Cry I've spent all evening looking for this Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry


Look at the last link ..it shows that the UK has approved the regs. Think about it ..there is type approval for the lighting housing specifications and there is type approval for the lamp filaments ...go to any lamp retailer and they will (should) have a statement next to any lamp bigger than 55w\60w saying 'Not street \ road legal'....now why would that be ....

Thud

Wink
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They don't need a light meter - if they think your lamps are dazzling, you're nicked. I think Wink

Any boys in blue on here who can confirm/deny our attempts to understand the regs? Rolling Eyes
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'Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men'.

- Douglas Bader Wink
  
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