Member Since: 12 Sep 2015
Location: Staffs
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Jacking up....
I have been trying to determine the best practice of jacking up my D4....but opinions seem to vary...suspension up....suspension down...normal....using a 3t trolley and axle stands is it suspension up/down/normal??? anybody give me the right/best way?
23rd Apr 2016 10:59 am
DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
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Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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Opps, just got in from swapping out 2 wheels without putting the old girl in OR height.
Will try to be good next time. But i think I said the same last time.
23rd Apr 2016 12:52 pm
Joncarma
Member Since: 21 Mar 2015
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 24
Funnily enough I've just had 4 new tyres (fitted at ATS). I left it in off road height when handing over the keys. The chap asked me why I'd done so and I commented that I had read that to be best practise somewhere! He said he'd recently been on a Land Rover update course and had been told to lock them in access height for jacking up and wheel changes. I accepted. Not sure what is correct, but they changed the tyres fine!!MY2014 Discovery SDV6 HSE
MY2003 Discovery 2 TD5 ES
MY1995 Discovery 300TDI
23rd Apr 2016 9:10 pm
kirkyworld
Member Since: 01 Mar 2016
Location: Northampton
Posts: 566
I have a jack adapter which a local machine shop made for me, it fits in the holes in the chassis rails and also in the top of a standard trolley jack. makes certain it won't ever slip off. I didn't realise you need to put it in any mode to jack, I just had it in standard height when I did my wheels.
23rd Apr 2016 9:58 pm
wireworld
Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 145
From the owners manual
WHEEL CHANGING SAFETY
Before raising the vehicle or changing a wheel, make sure that you read and comply with the following warnings:
WARNING
Always find a safe place to stop; off the highway and away from traffic.
WARNING
Do not jack the vehicle if it is over a metal grating or manhole cover.
WARNING
Make sure the vehicle is on firm, level ground.
WARNING
Make sure that the jack is on firm, level ground.
WARNING
Apply the Electric Parking Brake (EPB) and engage Park (P).
WARNING
Make sure the air suspension is set to Off-road height. THE JACK WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE LOCATED TO THE JACKING POINT WITHOUT DOING THIS.
WARNING
Switch on the hazard warning lamps.
WARNING
Make sure that the front wheels are in the straight ahead position, and engage the steering lock.
WARNING
Disconnect any trailer/caravan from the vehicle.
WARNING
Make sure that all passengers, and animals, are out of the vehicle and in a safe place away from the highway.
WARNING
Place a warning triangle at a suitable distance behind the vehicle, facing towards oncoming traffic.
WARNING
Remove the spare wheel before jacking the vehicle, to avoid destabilising the vehicle, when raised.
WARNING
Never place anything between the jack and the ground, or the jack and the vehicle.
WARNING
WARNING - THAT NO PERSON SHOULD PLACE ANY PORTION OF THEIR BODY UNDER A VEHICLE THAT IS SUPPORTED BY A JACK.
WARNING
Take care when loosening the wheel nuts. The wheel brace may slip off if not properly attached, and the wheel nuts may give way suddenly. Either unexpected movement, may cause an injury.
WARNING
Take care when lifting the spare wheel, and removing the punctured wheel. The wheels are heavy and can cause injuries if not handled correctly.
WARNING
Position the jack from the side of the vehicle, in line with the appropriate jacking point.
WARNING
Do not attempt to raise the vehicle unless the jack head is fully engaged in the jacking point. Only jack the vehicle using the approved jacking points.
WARNING
The jack is designed for wheel changing only. Never work beneath the vehicle with the jack as the only means of support. Always use correctly rated vehicle support stands, before putting any part of your body beneath the vehicle.
WARNING
Always use the complete jacking lever assembly throughout the tyre changing process, to minimise any chance of accidental injury.
WARNING
Do not start or run the engine while the vehicle is supported only by a jack.
Or you could just jack each wheel about 3" under each suspension arm while in access mode
Disclaimer: I've done this twice a year to change from summer to winter tyres and back again for the past 9 years of D3 ownership and on countless other occasions for brake maintenance etc. I haven't been crushed or mashed yet, but this is no guarantee of YOUR safety
23rd Apr 2016 10:32 pm
RBP
Member Since: 29 Aug 2012
Location: N Yorks
Posts: 1936
^^^^
I've always used this method Hope we won't be struck down for disobeying the rule book....
23rd Apr 2016 10:45 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72786
I'll be struck down for not putting the hazards on, and using the chassis & dropping onto an axle stand. Plus if I placed a warning triangle behind the car it would be in the hall.
They miss the first thing to do in case of a puncture. Call the AA/RAC/GF/LRA & let them do it.
24th Apr 2016 5:51 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
I favour the LRA method, it works! 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
24th Apr 2016 5:34 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
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It's what we pay for.
24th Apr 2016 5:37 pm
EMcC
Member Since: 10 Jul 2015
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 536
NoDo$h wrote:
Or you could just jack each wheel about 3" under each suspension arm while in access mode
I have just given up trying to change the rear wheel on my D4.
Firstly, judging from the LR manual, it looked to me as if the holes in the chassis were too far forward of the wheel I was hoping to lift off the ground. My jack came precariously high without moving the wheel.
I found a hole further back on the chassis but then it would make it difficult/almost impossible, to operate the jack handle, I have a bottle jack as recommended by other LR owners.
I saw the hole in the suspension arm of the wheel and thought - hah that looks good but before I could try it out I had to lower the jack and move it from it's first position.
I undid the screw to lower it as is usual but the jack did not lower so I undid it a bit more !!
Yes, you've guessed it, oil all over the drive and the only good thing was that the jack lowered and I could remove it.
If the jack had been lighter I would have thrown it across the garden, as it is now, it is in the garage waiting for me to decide what to do with it tomorrow.
14th Aug 2016 7:52 pm
EMcC
Member Since: 10 Jul 2015
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 536
Well that's it, I gave in and got my local garage to do it for me.
22nd Aug 2016 10:19 pm
Grunders
Member Since: 30 Apr 2011
Location: Manchester
Posts: 2302
NoDo$h wrote:
Or you could just jack each wheel about 3" under each suspension arm while in access mode
Disclaimer: I've done this twice a year to change from summer to winter tyres and back again for the past 9 years of D3 ownership and on countless other occasions for brake maintenance etc. I haven't been crushed or mashed yet, but this is no guarantee of YOUR safety
+1... This is what i've always done with a bottle jack... No issues on 2 D3's and 4 sets of wheels...If it ain't broke... Take it apart anyway, how else you gonna find out how it works
22nd Aug 2016 10:29 pm
darrener
Member Since: 07 Jul 2016
Location: Western Isles
Posts: 17
Ditch the old faithful garage jack then?
I'm new to D3 and air suspension. I set about rotating my wheels with my trusty garage jack -bought when I had a D2. On the rear, following the owners manual, every time I pumped the jack, the air suspension dropped the wheel. I had to give up with the garage jack, as it wouldn't lift high enough.
In the end I resorted to the standard scissor jack, which does go higher, but doesn't give much confidence of stability. I used this on the suspension arms.
A bottlejack looks to be the next purchase. Probably like the one that came with the D2!
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anybody give me the right/best way?
Hope we won't be struck down for disobeying the rule book....
