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D4XS Vs D3HSE
I was planning on upgrading my 55 plate D3HSE to a D4HSE early this year, but various issues at home mean I won’t now have the ability to do this until much later this year.
However two weeks ago I had to have a TC fitted to the D3 wiping out £1400, and two days ago it was involved in an accident that could write it off.
So, just in case, I’ve been doing some brief homework looking at the cost of D4s.
What I don’t really understand is the difference between an early 3.0 D4 XS and my D3 HSE with regard to toys etc.
I definitely wouldn’t miss the sunroofs.
I would miss the premium HK sound system, Satnav, leather seats, 4x4 info screen, Climate control, parking sensors and Bluetooth phone.
I’m assuming the D4 XS has all of these except the 4x4 info screen, which I believe can be activated anyway, and a lot for sale appear to have the premium HK sound fitted as an upgrade from new.
I would like a rear camera, but I believe this can be retro fitted quite easily.
Am I missing something, as the difference between D4XS and D4HSE appears to be the Premium sound system, 4x4 screen and sunroofs.
Thanks
NasherHeaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
17th Jan 2016 11:10 pm
Disco_Mikey
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Some had been ordered with armrest pack which wasn't standard on the XS, something I would find it hard to live without.
PS slower than Mikey.Displaced Yorkshireman.
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17th Jan 2016 11:16 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
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I'm trying to get to grips with this myself.
Whilst the D4 XS may have leather seats, some have said that the quality of the seat is not as good as that on the HSE.
You might also 'miss' heated rear seats and (possibly) TV?Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
17th Jan 2016 11:22 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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Blimey, hadn't realised there would be no Armrests, that would be a definite requirement for me.
Are they 'retrofitable'?
Thanks guys, anything else?
Is the Bluetooth phone standard?
Would anyone have an old early D4 spec list I could look at?
Thanks
Nasher.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
17th Jan 2016 11:25 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
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One of the options was 'Electric seat and armrest pack' so I'm guessing that might be a yes.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
17th Jan 2016 11:30 pm
DaveT
Member Since: 01 Aug 2005
Location: Cornwall
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Armrest isn't realistically retro-fitable, but it might be possible to fit complete HSE seat? I'm still not clear on how much electrical work is needed to achieve this.
I specified the elec seats / armrest pack on my last D4XS simply to get the elec seat adjustment rather than the standard manual adjustment that has the habit of tipping you forward as you raise the seat.
No rear seat heating on a standard XS, or rear air con.Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
SIII Lightweight - neglected & rusting. Bulkhead, A panels, vent panel & outriggers now disintegrated - Next years project!
17th Jan 2016 11:57 pm
discoteca
Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
Location: Warwickshire
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XS fitted with armrest pack and electric seats doesn't come with electric seat memory if I remember correctly.
As said a fair few XS had the logic7 upgrade specified (mine has and rear camera). I added 4x4 info, timed/remote climate. Note XS did not come with xenon lights as standard.
D3 --> D4 it's not just about the toys though......
18th Jan 2016 12:27 am
Nasher
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Thanks all.
Thankfully my D3 has now had the go ahead to be fixed not written off, but this means I have more info for when I do go for it.
Do I take it the reversing camera is only HSE or an upgrade?
Is it easily retro-fitted on an XS with no problems?
Having had a look, I think an upgraded XS might suit me better, as although I like the light from a sunroof I don't like the problems associated with the LR ones leaking etc.
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20th Jan 2016 1:32 pm
adam
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Nasher - PM me your email address - I've got a MY10 D4 brochure on .pdf
Cheers
Adam
20th Jan 2016 2:28 pm
DerbyshireDisco
Member Since: 12 Mar 2012
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As with armrest some XS D4s were ordered with reversing camera as a factory upgrade.
I am pretty sure Bodsy can retro fit them.Displaced Yorkshireman.
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SDV6 Auto obviously, Loire blue/Ebony, ugly kid glass, RLD wheel protector, private plate and maybe side steps.
20th Jan 2016 3:58 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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No auto dipping mirrors when reverse is selected on an XS. HSE and above only.
Seats is a big issue though, far superior in HSE and above spec.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
20th Jan 2016 6:43 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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In what respect are the seats a big issue?
Is it just that they are manual adjustment or are they different in other ways?
Thanks
NasherHeaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
20th Jan 2016 8:02 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23584
Different shape I believe and less adjustment. There's been quite a few comments on the subject.
Oddly, the sunroof also gives a fraction more interior headroom. That's important for me.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
20th Jan 2016 9:53 pm
Fitzy73
Member Since: 09 Feb 2014
Location: Truro
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I have never tried the seats in a HSE, but have found the seats in my XS fine.Andy
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