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Thanks guys, we managed to get it out of park with a jumper pack (second recovery chap) we have been recovered to their depot and we are taking a hire car home with the disco being delivered home tomorrow.
Thanks for all the help and support, it makes all the difference, now what are my options with regards to the second hand car dealer who sold it me, I have only had it a week!!
30th Dec 2015 2:55 pm
MarsKy
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Thanks to everyone on the site, I and my family have just got home driving an old Peugeot 206, it was a bit of a wreck, but it got us home like a trouper.
I am so disappointed, this is the first time I tried a more modern Land Rover in over 10 years, I knew it would be a bit hit and miss reliability wise hence why I bought recovery cover and a IId tool, but 9 days is a record for me, it's weird because the car has obviously been well looked after, so maybe it will be just me being unlucky.
I will call the dealer tomorrow and see what they offer.
Again thanks again everyone who chimed in
30th Dec 2015 7:23 pm
Woolmeister
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You may have just been unlucky and bought it before the alternator decided to pack up. Most of us - who have owned a D3 for any length of time - will have experienced the alternator failure before. It's fairly common on these power-hungry vehicles.
Presume the garage offered some kind of warranty, even if it was only 30 days or so?
If this is what the problem is then I would be looking for them to fund a new alternator (and make sure it is a Genuine/Denso one because cheaper aftermarket ones have also been known to overcharge and cause problems), new battery (because a failing alternator frequently fries the battery as well) and also investigate why you lost power like you did (in tank fuel pump?).
Let us know how you get on. Good luck.
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30th Dec 2015 7:36 pm
davidhem
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Steve
Yes the car came with a three month warranty, but it is one of those third party ones that probably won't pay out anything, citing wear and tear.
I will update here as and when I get any news.
30th Dec 2015 7:39 pm
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Check your T&Cs on the warranty for what is covered. Will prob cover alternator, but not battery, go after the seller for the battery under SoG legislation. It was probably chopped because of these problems, you're now picking up the pieces. Lots of reports of new (to new owner) with immediate problems, more likely they were faulty when offloaded.
30th Dec 2015 7:43 pm
Russell
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Woolmeister wrote:
Battery shouldn't be flat from having the lights on for so long. There's something else afoot if that's the case.
Steve
I would disagree, what did you have switched on, did you have ignition on , headlights, side lights hazards etc, did you have interior lights on as well, and perhaps the radio or may be phones on charge. It does not take long to flatten a battery on a D3 or D4 when you have a number of things turned on.MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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30th Dec 2015 7:52 pm
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Sounds like a fuelling problem with a dodgy alternator/battery as well.
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30th Dec 2015 7:54 pm
MarsKy
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davidhem wrote:
Steve
Yes the car came with a three month warranty, but it is one of those third party ones that probably won't pay out anything, citing wear and tear.
I will update here as and when I get any news.
Read the Honest John piece. Irrespective of any kind of warranty, if a significant fault occurs within the first 6 months and it was unknown or not made apparent during the purchase, the dealer has to fix or you can reject the car. It includes used cars from a dealer.
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30th Dec 2015 8:43 pm
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Yep, if faulty within 6 months then it is presumed that it was faulty on sale, unless can be proved otherwise.
New laws were applied recently regarding the sale of any goods and the garage is legally bound to pay you your full purchase price within thirty days of the,sale they are also legally bound to offer a warranty for a minimum of three months even if they say they don't as it was,written into law a couple of months back
30th Dec 2015 9:22 pm
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I am just happy to be in one piece, broken down on the side of the M5 in todays weather was not a nice place to be, it was gunning it down and windy as hell, there was no way we could sit away from the car, plus we had our dog, so I spent the whole time looking in the rear view mirror praying no one would hit us.
With regards to the battery draining, I think there is something wrong there, because as soon as we pulled over, I tried to restart the car and everything dimmed when I turned the car over, the thing is there were no warning lights at all, and the car was producing 14.2 volts the day before as I had the IId tool on it.
I had the flashers, side lights, and used the IId tool a couple of times (ignition on) and also tried to turn it over a couple of times after using the IId tool to see if it had done anything, completely flat in an hour.
I have to say I am a bit disappointed with the IId tool, when I have a check engine light on and the IId tool is showing no faults at all, this was before the battery went really low. maybe I was not using it correctly, but it did turn the EPB off for me, so thats something.
I have decided to keep it, as it really is in very good condition, and has a full service history, but I will see what the dealer is prepared to offer.
Again many thanks to all.
Even with the problems today, I have to say it is a fantastic ride, it handled the Devon lanes with aplomb and was fantastic in the horrible weather today until it stopped working of course. I drive a 911 as a daily driver, the two really complement each other.
30th Dec 2015 10:05 pm
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If there were codes to be read the IID would read them. It's not unknown for the D3 to die at the side of the road and not store any codes.
30th Dec 2015 10:10 pm
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30th Dec 2015 10:11 pm
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